We spent the weekend with Zack's mom & sister in the Austin area. They just bought a new house. While Kris and I were picking up groceries & whatnot at Wal-mart we met up with a man & woman from the church Kris & Mom attend. When Kris stopped to say hello to them the woman appeared concerned when I stopped, too. I could imagine her thinking "Watch out for that freak, Kristina! I think she's going to snatch your purse!" Ha. Then when Kris introduced me they were both probably thinking "How did that nice Salinas boy end up with a hellion like that??" To their credit, Mom & Kris have both accepted me unconditionally. I swear, I couldn't have ended up with cooler in-laws if I'd had eleventy billion dollars to search for some.

I had a dream the other night that I lived across the street from Chris Cornell and Susan Silver. I went outside to check my mail one afternoon and they were getting on their motorcycles to leave. Chris said they were going on a road trip and Susan invited me to go with them. I told them I didn't have a motorcycle. Susan said "That's ok, you can ride behind Chris!" Hell yeah! Best. Neighbors. EVAR.

UPDATE:

Due to requests from old SOMMS buddies, I've decided to close this forum down. I thought it was funny and entertaining at first, but it has degenerated into something I don't want to deal with anymore. You'll have to look for fresh Chris Cornell and Vicky Karayiannis gossip elsewhere. Ta.

Posted by Texas T-Bone @ 09/17/2003 03:48 PM CST

i see what you have on the brain.

Posted by Raspil @ 09/18/2003 12:50 AM CST

mmm.......chris cornell....*homer simpson drool* hey suzie whats your favorite soundgarden album?

Posted by *beeker* @ 09/23/2003 08:10 PM CST

Maybe you tapped into something in your dream. Susan Silver probably doesn't care who's riding on the back of Chris Cornell's motorcycle these days. Apparently, Chris and Susan are either divorced or separated. Page Six of the New York Post reported that Chris celebrated his 39th birthday with girlfriend Vicky Karayiannis, a much younger Paris-based publicist. I hang my head... alas, my idol is an ordinary man.

Posted by Vikki @ 09/24/2003 01:33 PM CST

I don't know about you guys, but I'd rather Chris Cornell be here on earth and cheating on his wife (which is gossip, not the word of God, by the way) than have him be in the ground like Andy, Layne, Kurt, and Shannon. But that's me.

Posted by Raspil @ 09/25/2003 11:58 PM CST

Damn, am I glad it's gossip tho. As much as I admire and love Cornell myself, I have tremendous respect for Susan Silver and I'd beat my head if these two great people separated. Alas, it's life, after all tho.

Posted by Minerva @ 10/06/2003 03:01 PM CST

sounds like a crock of shit to me though. i doubt there is any truth to it...at all...i didnt even hear anything about a divorce or separation (and im sure that would have leaked out too) hopefully this bs will be cleared up....

Posted by ashley @ 10/19/2003 10:18 PM CST

Hi! Im from Buenos aires in Argentina, I Love Audioslave, I Like a Chris Cornell and you Girlsriends is obligation...
Sorry for my english!! jaja

Posted by Ferchu_AudioAr @ 10/20/2003 12:28 PM CST

CHRIS CORNELL Celebrates Engagement In Paris - Oct. 18, 2003

The New York Post reports that Chris Cornell, who sang for grunge gods SOUNDGARDEN and now fronts AUDIOSLAVE, celebrated his engagement to Paris-based publicist Vicky Karayiannis at Le Bar at the Plaza Athenee Hotel the other night. After Cornell gave his fiancée a Harry Winston diamond, the happy couple partied with supermodels Adriana Lima and Eva Herzigova, actor Sean William Scott and fashion photographer Patrick Demarchelier.

Cornell was previously married to former SOUNDGARDEN/ALICE IN CHAINS manager Susan Silver, with whom he has a three-year-old daughter, Lily.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=16067 and http://www.nypost.com/gossip/3775.htm

Posted by Ashley @ 10/20/2003 03:24 PM CST

chris and susan not together anymore? what the?? i've been out of the loop i guess. i've always loved chris. he's awesome in so many ways, but he is a man. i want to know what this new girl looks like. anybody seen any pics?

Posted by Tricia @ 10/23/2003 11:32 AM CST

hey, izzit really true that he has a new gf? i really hope its just a gossip.... no way he's not with susan anymore!!

Posted by amirah @ 10/28/2003 01:52 AM CST

So sorry to hear about the breakup of Chris and Susan. Thought that would last forever. Chris is absolutely beautiful, but I do like Susan very much. How cool was she managing Alice in Chains and Soungarden. I kind of hope it was her idea to leave and that she wasn't too hurt by it. Anyone seen any pictures of the new girl Vicky? God I'm curious.

Posted by Judi Molinari @ 11/06/2003 12:26 PM CST

This is so f'ed up. I don't care if he's a man or not. It's no excuse.. Sorry if I seem steamed in this post but I'm really upset. No matter who you are you have no right to cheat on someone you exchanged vows with, or love, or whatever the case is. Not to mention but you don't do shit like that when you have a child either. This is really disappointing, and my view of this 'god' chris cornell just got buried. I don't care what this homewrecker looks like, and quite frankly it shouldn't matter... He needs to address this b/c it's really hurting his rep with many of his loyal fans. Eitherway, Susan Silver is a wonderful woman, from what we know of her, and from her achievements... and I agree with the person who posted earlier.. these two ppl were beautiful together and I'm gonna beat my head against the wall as well if this shit turns up true. I'm sure NYPost didn't pull this shit outta their asses, expecially when a yr ago he was spotted with someone in france, shopping...

Posted by J @ 12/18/2003 07:32 PM CST

Just because he and Susan are divorced or separated and Chris has a new girlfriend doesn't mean that CHRIS is the one who is to blame. No one knows what happens, nor do we know that Susan isn't the one at fault. We know nothing about these people's personal lives and it's pretty presumptious of us to make these accusations.

Posted by Jenifer @ 12/23/2003 06:34 PM CST

its just a rumor.chris and susan are still together;and chris doesent know this vicky person.

Posted by lolita @ 01/02/2004 10:33 PM CST

its just a rumor.chris and susan are still together;and chris doesent know this vicky person.

Posted by lolita @ 01/02/2004 10:33 PM CST

i saw a picture of vicky karayiannis. she is really ugly. besides the fact the only place you ever see anything about chris and her is the newyork post which is just a gossip rag this vicky woman is ugly.she looks fat too.now susan silver was never any beauty queen, but vicky is a pig.

Posted by chris varges @ 01/08/2004 01:16 AM CST

yeay,i saw a picture of ms. karayiannis too. yes she is really ugly. chris could get any girl he wanted,so i can not see why he would want her.i never saw why he was even with susan,she is ugly too.but i must say vicky is really bad. shes got stringy mousy colored hair, ugly eyes,afat nose,a shaggy, flabby face and she looks big boned.

Posted by davidyeay, @ 01/10/2004 07:13 AM CST

any pictures of susan silver or lily (daughter)? curious! :-)

Posted by cecilia @ 01/18/2004 04:15 PM CST

Nobody ia answering the question-are Chris and Susan still together or is he really with Vicky?Does anyone really Know?

Posted by Alana @ 01/19/2004 07:39 PM CST

yes i also am very interested to know the facts about chris and susan. i do hope that they are still together. i've been a fan of chris cornell ever since i can remember. he's amazing (no words can accurately describe him) and i do hope that he isn't like every other man on the street. he has so much talent and so much to offer and the thought of him having an affair or whatever just makes me sad.

Posted by Moonchild @ 01/23/2004 07:57 AM CST

i think its just a rumor about chris being with this vicky person. i have seen recent articles about chris and susan, and everything was fine. but i do not know if he is cheating.

Posted by colleen @ 01/30/2004 04:40 AM CST

is he really separated? well, i dont really care about that(honestly i do care) but when i knew about that it was shock. i wanna know the truth!!

Posted by kickstand @ 01/31/2004 01:10 AM CST

it was shock, little dissapointed

Posted by kickstand @ 01/31/2004 01:13 AM CST

i tried to look up this vickychick and found one picture she is UGLY i want to know about chris and susan i hear they are married and they are not which one is it? anyone know please help out!! but i have noticed recently that Chris wasnt wearing his wedding ring WHAT THE F***.

Posted by JR @ 02/07/2004 10:48 AM CST

does anyone know how to get a picture of this vicky person. i guess shes really ugly.

Posted by colleendoes @ 02/07/2004 04:33 PM CST

does anyone know how to get a picture of this vicky person. i guess shes really ugly.

Posted by colleendoes @ 02/07/2004 04:33 PM CST

i dont see why chris is with this vicky woman, shes so ugly. chris could get any pretty girl,the most beautiful girl.

Posted by kevin @ 02/07/2004 09:55 PM CST

this is to flutter girl and people like moonchild. where do you get off naming yourselves after chris cornells songs? he did not write those songs for any of you. none of you even know him, and he doesent know ant of you. even if some of you have met him, he still did not write the songs about you. so why dont you people get over yourselves. chris wouldent have anything to do with any of you.

Posted by c.m. @ 02/20/2004 10:02 AM CST

c.m. = colleendoes = kevin.

You're a fucking hypocrite. First you obsess over this Vicky character and then you slam Moonbeam and me for using Chris' songs as our online nicknames. Boiled any bunnies lately, bitch?

Consider yourself banned. Ta.

Posted by suzie @ 02/20/2004 10:15 AM CST

can anyon post where they saw pics of vicki?

Posted by ccspixie @ 02/20/2004 09:58 PM CST

that's sad... but chris is still my idol. can any1 tell me where i can find a pic of vicky? i'm really curious to see wut she loox like.

Posted by sarah @ 02/21/2004 07:54 PM CST

Can you guys leave a website link or something to see this Vicky chick.

Posted by Lars @ 02/22/2004 10:48 AM CST

This is the website where I found pics fo that Vicky chick.
http://audioslave.metropoliglobal.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=17208#17208

Posted by Lars @ 02/22/2004 11:38 AM CST

is that her for sure? i cant read spanish but it looks like there asking if its her on the thred.

can anyone post the pics they mentioned bakc in january? pretty please!

Posted by ccspixie @ 02/22/2004 09:02 PM CST

i need better proof that he is really with that vicky chick. I saw the pictures that were posted. i need more proof. are susan and chris really divorced or is he with vicky. someones has to know.

Posted by laila @ 02/24/2004 01:17 PM CST

yeah come on we want real proof. cut the goss and lets have some facts, PLEASE

Posted by drownmeinyourthirstyveins @ 02/27/2004 10:08 AM CST

This Vicky is pretty cute. I guess the world is pretty messed up when this girl is considered fat and ugly

Posted by Crystal @ 02/29/2004 01:58 AM CST

I saw the pics from the site posted by Lars, but the pics aren't very clear. They kinda look like Chris with Susan. Any one know of a better pic?

Posted by Bess @ 02/29/2004 08:54 PM CST

Whatever the hell is going on in the Cornell camp is HUSHHUSH. I've heard absolutely nothing else about a divorce (which wouldn't he have to have one from susan to be marrying vicky?) or an engagement. Sure, Chris Cornell is a person just like the rest of us and has a right to privacy, yadayadayada, but enquiring minds want to know!! So won't somebody spill the beans?

Posted by Bess @ 02/29/2004 08:57 PM CST

is chris in the studio with ther rest of audioslave right now? anyone know?

Posted by ccspixie @ 03/08/2004 03:46 AM CST

Regarding 'married or engaged'....fact is....you can't believe all that you read. Truth? All men and women live many lives in one, and its in the split seconds where the light hits them that people remember the color of their eyes. Years pass, the dates don't change...but the names do seem to blur. There was a time that knowing about someone elses life seemed to matter, but now its just.....another slice of history. The color of his eyes live in more than just one face. I need to leave it at that. Here's to passions muse, and rock star illusions.

Posted by Zia @ 03/09/2004 04:29 PM CST

I was on my honeymoon in Seatlle this past October and my husband and I ran into Chris and his daughter at the zoo. He was with 2 ladies (neither of whom were Susan)....which leads me to believe the separation/divorce story.....one of the ladies was clearly a nanny....and the other I am led to believe was Vicky.......Chris was very cool to us.....we got a picture with him and chatted for a few minutes.........he was awesome with his daughter Lily....very attentive and a great father to her...

Posted by lgus @ 03/13/2004 01:56 PM CST

thats so cool! does lily take after her father or susn?

Posted by ccspixie @ 03/15/2004 09:37 PM CST

Did you get a picture of Vicky by chance? It seems there are a lot of people that would like to see one. What does she look like, by the way? Any chance you could post a link to the picture you took of Chris?

Posted by Tia @ 03/16/2004 08:20 PM CST

I think it's very superficial to say that Chris shouldn't be, or isn't, with this Vicky person because she's 'ugly'. It's obvious that he isn't a superficial person and never has been. [Personally I'd like to believe he's still with Susan anyway].

Posted by angelleftwing @ 03/17/2004 01:57 AM CST

I saw Chris and Lily at Gameworks tonight in Seattle. They looked like they were having a grea time

Posted by Chani @ 03/31/2004 05:01 AM CST

really?! so cool!!

Posted by foo @ 04/04/2004 04:25 AM CST

Can you give details??

Posted by Namun @ 04/04/2004 10:41 AM CST

I dont know what you saw on pictures but I saw him with this vicky girl in la not a week ago and he was with a beautiful brunette who was glowing and actually very pregnant Chris looked so happy holding hands together. Honestly whoever called this girl ugly or fat I would love to see you send pictures of yourself so everyone can examine you as far as fat this girl has a great body and I hope I can look like that when I'm pregnant. Im sorry but I find it sad how jealous some of us are because that's all it is plain old fashion jealousy and who cares what she looks like she makes him happy but if you can handle the truth she is exotic and beautiful with shiny thick brown hair and a rather small frame. and the fact that she is hanging out with his daughter that is very cool! Good luck to Chris and Vicky!

Posted by liz @ 04/09/2004 07:14 PM CST

and also I forgot to mention that Chris now has a huge tattoo covering the old one with a C on one side a K on the other a diamond in the middle and two wedding bands on top. Something is written on the bottom but I couldnt make out what it was. Just FYI!

Posted by liz @ 04/09/2004 07:25 PM CST

Pregnant??! How pregnant? That is so awesome! I've always heard Chris is a great dad. I'm so happy for him if he is having another child. That's wonderful! After all, the more little Cornells running around, the more likely one will take after dad with that incredible voice. lol Seriously though, that's really great. I'm so happy for him.

Posted by Chela @ 04/11/2004 09:25 PM CST

I can't find any pictures off that web site either. Anywhere else? And isn't that wierd that this Spanish website is the only one who has them? Wouldn't paparizzi sell the photos I mean everyone is asking to see them. I highly doubt that they have them. Anyway would love to see anybody that can redirect me or tell me exactly where they could open these alleged photos? As for Chris, I too wish him the best of luck and by the way guys sorry to say it but seriously get a life and leave the poor girl alone, she's pregnant. And its not going to change the fact that she gets to sleep with him every night. Lucky girl!!! Best of luck to the two of them and their baby and I can't wait to hear the next AUDIOSLAVE album!

Posted by Stephanie @ 04/12/2004 08:46 PM CST

The pics were up on the forum at his website a while back but I don't remember the name of the thread.

Posted by liz @ 04/24/2004 10:38 AM CST

You wanted it, you got it. Pictures... Click Here: www.geocities.com/xavariax

Posted by Avaria @ 04/25/2004 01:35 AM CST

That's her and let me just start off by saying- that is not a good picture. But seriously when you look at that you see mousy stringy hair and a flabby face? Well wait until you get a better look she is beautiful and lets discuss Chris for a second "the man is gorgeous and he doesn't look too great himself there!

Posted by liz @ 04/28/2004 06:45 PM CST

Someone quite a while ago ask if lillie looked like suzan or chris and the answer is....suzan and a unknown dude,thats right she was a test tube baby. very serious.:)

Posted by Rachelle @ 05/05/2004 06:51 PM CST

A test tube baby? I'm sorry, but that's bull. If Chris shot blanks then why is Vicky pregnant? [assuming it's true...]

Posted by angelleftwing @ 05/06/2004 01:14 AM CST

Yo i haven't seen pics of chris cornells house yet some1 plz send me pics

Posted by exploder @ 05/07/2004 02:53 PM CST

Where has chris been? I have not heard anything about him. Is Vicky really pregnant? She doesnt look pregnant in those pictures. Is he really not with susan anymore. Does anyone Know?

Posted by laila @ 05/08/2004 03:00 PM CST

It's true, Lilian was a test-tube baby, Chris has said it himself in a interview, "Lily was a test-tube baby, she spent her first days of life on a petri dish."

Posted by yudda yudda yudda @ 05/09/2004 12:46 AM CST

Since Susan was a little older than the average mother and Chris a very frequent smoker, they could not conceive the 'old way'

Posted by yudda yudda yudda @ 05/09/2004 12:48 AM CST

At first I thought you were hinting that Chris wasn't the father. The test tube baby thing does make sense, but if it is true, then how come there is NOTHING on the net about it?

Posted by angelleftwing @ 05/10/2004 01:31 AM CST

I read it on scuzz news… guess its true… to quote someone who posted like almost a year ago, alas my idol is an ordinary man... but similarly at least he married her & he's not being a man-whore... which is far more disturbing...
thing is even in an interview in july-ish last yr, on the net (some US radio show) he refers to his wife, & its susan definitely... i guess its just sad that after everything that they've been through you'd expect them to… i dunno.... i live in my own dreamworld with pink fluffy clouds etc so u'd expect to think this way... ah well… there are 2 sides to every story though… so I’m sure everybody will know sooner or later… good luck vicky & chris…

Posted by psycho_fied @ 05/14/2004 03:58 AM CST

I feel every human male, rock star or not goes through mid life crises. Mr. cornell reached his, cashed in the old and started new WITH EVERYTHING! After all.. I don't think The Chris Cornell of Ultra mega o.k., Fopp, and Flower era would be cought dead at "The Ivy" in L.A. or Le Bar in Paris...even if he could spare the cash. People change with fame... I just hope it's true happiness...I hope he is happy with his choices.

Posted by liltxgrl @ 05/14/2004 03:04 PM CST

liltxgrl, you are very true...

Posted by yudda yudda yudda @ 05/15/2004 12:32 AM CST

May 13, 2004 -- ROCKER Chris Cornell and his girlfriend, Paris-based publicist Vicky Karayiannis, were wed last weekend in Paris. Talent superagent Jeff Kwatinetz was best man, and brought along his fiancée, Brittany Murphy. Cornell's band Audioslave joined other guests at the Alain Ducasse restaurant at the Plaza Athenee, where Cornell crooned to his bride and everyone feasted on a 6-foot wedding cake. The pair actually tied the knot in L.A. a few months ago, when Cornell's divorce was finalized, but decided to have their traditional ceremony in the City of Light.

Posted by angelleftwing @ 05/15/2004 02:03 AM CST

who ever sain that this vicky lady was fat is jealous she is beautiful just like he is good luck to chris and Vicky and congrats on wedding

Posted by me @ 05/17/2004 11:07 PM CST

HI, I´M A BIG CHRIS CORNELL'S FAN. I´M SO HAPPY THAT HE GOT MARRIED. SORRY IF MY HORIBLE ENGLISH. BYEE

Posted by ALINE @ 05/23/2004 07:36 PM CST

He and she....and another baby makes three. Do not believe each photo taken....or every word written. The lives of others are just curtains for our own. Some day our pasts will return to polish or tarnish our future.
How terribly un poetic and at the same time, quite accurate. These 'golden gods' some idolize are not the superheros they imagine. They are just men, nothing more, and (worse perhaps) even less. With no ill-will intented, but only a comment of request.
Nothing is ever what it seems.

Posted by Zia @ 05/30/2004 09:38 PM CST

Perception is reality..

Posted by KC @ 06/12/2004 09:36 AM CST

as much as i want to be happy for him, i can't help but think WHY SO FAST?? take a break and be by yourslef for awhile. and the funny thing is, i just mentioned today to a friend that i bet vicky is much younger and already pregnant and BAM-tonight i read that they were seen in a la restuarant two weeks ago. a friend of mine actually sat next to him in a restuarant in nyc the following wednesday-he was with three guys. i sort of have mixed feelings-hope he'shappy and i hope susan is equally as happy. she's an amazing women-been with him through all of the craziness and managed to make it through thr '90's alive and in one piece. it just burns me, that soemone can be repalced so quickly. with jlo getting married as often as most people change there underwear, i wonder if everyone takes any of it seriously. and ya know what else, chris always commets on how he likes to be alone--what was he alone five seconds before he met and married someone else. i love him to death, one of the greatest if not THE greatest vocalist and lyricist in music, but jesus christ pose --what's the damn hurry!!?!

Posted by joe @ 06/21/2004 08:19 PM CST

The truth will eventually come out about her. All anybody has to do is ask around. Those who know will be happy to talk. There is much to be said...

Posted by X @ 06/23/2004 02:18 AM CST

I heard rumors that already they are having trouble. Has anybody else heard about this?

Posted by Jani @ 06/24/2004 12:36 PM CST

How "alone" is he going to be with a new child bride and a new baby? Inquiring minds want to know!
By the way Zia; you are totally right!

Posted by curious george @ 06/24/2004 04:20 PM CST

just wanted to add to what Joe said. he certainly wasn't alone when he got this Vicky pregnant before he even divorced his wife with whom he has a three year child with. Maybe he is going throug mid-life crisis or making up for all the time he lost being drunk but it just looks like to me he is making even bigger mistakes. She about sisteen years her junior, what kind of support can soemone so young offer a guy that's had to go through rehab and will struggle with addiction all his life. Plus a new baby and touring, its a hard life. And from what I've heard things are not that great. I read somewhere she's bad news.
"what was the danm hurry?"-

Posted by Jani @ 06/25/2004 01:30 AM CST

I'm surprised that everybody is surpriesed at Chris Cornell's behaviour as of late. This is exactly the kind of juvenile behaviour one should expect from him. I mean, how much growing up/maturing could he have done if he spent the last ten years in a drunken stupor. Now that he is sober he picked up where he left off, somewhere in his early twenties. Hence the young wife, the fake tan, and the trendy places he likes visit now. The important thing is that he continue to make good music but even if he doesn't who cares, someone else will take his place. There's always someone better, younger, smarter, cuter, etc... I just hope Susan wasn't terribly hurt and for his sake, I hope he does grow up, and soon, he has three children to take care of; his first daughter, the baby that will be arriving soon and his own wife. Now that's a busy man!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 06/25/2004 03:22 PM CST

You all raise interesting points but I have to agree that he seems to be someone else. Whatever's going on with him it better not affect the quality of his music or he's history. let's face it, his solo album wasn't exactly a hit. From twelve years of making hits with SG to singing about flutter girls and moonchildren, c'mom, give me a break! You can pull that sh... off only if you are Frank Zappa. So he better not loose his focus. From what I've been reading everywhere, his choice of new bride is slowly turning him into a laughing stock. Jokes on you dude. Keep your cool or you loose you're place in the spot light and get replaced. If he's really f...-up, he'll pay for his mistakes just like we all do.
"It's just a flavor-of the-moment-thing with the rich and famous."

Posted by curious george @ 06/25/2004 04:08 PM CST

just ot of curiosity- how is she that is his new wife making him a laughing stock. From what I understand she is a pretty big publicist and quite accomplished in her own right. Why would you say this of him and her; really get a grip! Also from what I read they were married before she got pregnant and also didn't they have an official engagement party way back in October? There isn't anything that says shotgun wedding about the whole thing. Furthermore, how do we know that Susan didn't leave Chris? Maybe she was messing around for all we know. In any case, it has been verified that Chris was amazing throughout his last tour and sober- maybe she's the difference. Maybe he found someone and doesn't want to be alone anymore. There is nothing worst than having everything and being alone. We really know nothing about him or her or Susan but I think we can all agree that as far as his music is concerned he's great. wWho cares about the rest of that? And at the end of the day if she makes him happy then so be it. We never know she may even be nice why is she automatically presumed not to be? We may even like her!

Posted by liz @ 06/26/2004 04:20 AM CST

FYI; Vicky is about seven to eight months pregnant. They were married in April in Paris for the second time., They married a couple of months earlier in LA, MTV got the date wrong when they said six months before. His divorce was final two weeks before his wedding in LA. The record of their divorce with the actual date, is a public record, if you want to check the dates. It was filed in the state of Washington. They got engaged and she got pregnant before he was divorced. Some people may find this "ugly", especially since he has a child with his former wife. Also, Vicky is in her early twenties, she is not old enough to be that accomplished business wise, she works or worked for her brother's publishing company, the money she supposedly has is her family's money and she has a reputation for liking celebrities. She is a typical rich brat that likes designer clothes and famous guys. There are stories... Who knows what all that is about. It would seem though, that Mr. Cornell was the one who took the bait. Should have checked her background a little bit better before he tied the knot... around his neck!

Posted by Morgan @ 06/26/2004 01:40 PM CST

To add something else, there are those who have hinted that if she hadn't "conveniently" gotten pregnant he would not have married her so quickly, he might not have gotten married at all. Her timing was perfect! He wants a family and lo and behold, she gives him one. Maybe he was smart, maybe he got a pre-up, and maybe she would have maried him anyway even if he was just a newspaper delivery boy! Maybe he knows and doens't care. She's young and makes him look young and she's got many more baby-making years in her yet! Love, isn't it grand? SIGH!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 06/26/2004 05:51 PM CST

Oops, made a boo-boo! What I meant was; maybe he got a pre-nup, as in pre-nupcial agreement. Afterall, if she's as rich and successful as everybody says she is, what does she need his money for??? maybe she suggested they sign one herself? What?

Posted by Morgan @ 06/26/2004 05:56 PM CST

Actually they were married in May in Paris.

Posted by jani @ 06/26/2004 11:08 PM CST

You are totally right! The Paris wedding was in May, around six weeks earlier they got married in LA and a couple of weeks before that his divorce from Susan was finalized.

Posted by Morgan @ 06/27/2004 12:51 AM CST

I read somewhere that they met at a party HER brother orginized for the band after a concert. That same night she went back to the hotel with him and the rest is history. If this is true then she really is a skank. You don't give it away to someone you just met, no matter how famous they are, chances are she's done it before many times. And Chris is a moron, you don't marry someone who gives it away to you because you are famous, you definitely don't have kids with this woman, What kind of a mother is she going to be? THEY ARE BOTH PIGS. I held him to higher standards. EWWW!!!!

Posted by Kristin @ 06/27/2004 01:46 PM CST

This is the link: http://p070.ezboard.com/fchriscornellfrm2.showMessageRange?topicID=1133.topic&start=21&stop=40

Posted by Kristin @ 06/27/2004 02:17 PM CST

Girlfriend asked my opinion as a guy so here goes. man I'm no genius but Cornell's been had. The whole things reeks. This Vicky has him by the balls, dude will never admit it but that's the truth. hope she's good in the sack, at least he's got that much.

Posted by Mark @ 06/27/2004 04:25 PM CST

How do you know she gave it away to him? Maybe she didn't- maybe that's why he fell in love with her because unlike most of us who would do it (lets not kid ourselves). In my opinion if you are unhappy and miserable I guess you would see that as a skanky story on the other hand if you are happy in your life and not jealous of others you would find this a beautiful story- they met and fell madly in love. Nobody was in the bedroom with them. And whoever speaks like that, that is the pig. By the way Kristin, why don't you send us a memo on your life status and let's examine your high standards and where they come from; what kind of work do you do? What schools did you attend (obviously you don't have the best of education or you would not make references such as pigs you would be able to find a better way of expressing yourself- by the way did you also read that she is an Ivy League graduate or did you miss that part trying to just find something bad)? Do you go to church every Sunday? Do you have a boyfriend or a husband- where do they come from? what do they do for a living? When was the first time you slept with them? Let us be the judge of your high standards.
FYI- She and her brother are partners and she was Chris's publicist that is how they met. And yes they are both very accomplished- Nick does promotion and Vicky does publicity. Chris didn't meet her and then make her his publicist which was the case for Susan as far as management. Wasn't Susan a shoe sales person and club promoter when she met Chris. Susan was already torn to pieces when she first became Chris's manager since she was his girlfriend. People said all kind of nonsense about Susan and the fact that she was 6 years his senior. One was too OLD now one is too YOUNG. (I mean let's give the guy a break)! The common denominator for both is calling both SKANKS- lets not forget the things that were said 15 years ago about Susan. I guess now it's Vicky's turn. Why can't people just be happy for others and if he's happy then so be it.

Posted by alex @ 06/28/2004 05:24 AM CST

Ivy League graduate really, you sure about that? Hmmm!
I guess they went back to his room and played Scrabble. People are entitled to their opinions and it seems, alex, that, for all your high falluting attitude, you aren't able to respect the opinions of others, so why should we care about yours. If they look like pigs to someone that's their opinion, what do you care? By the way not everybody would sleep with Cornell right away, amazing as this may sound, some of us might not even want to. Stranger things have happened. You seem a little too eager to play devil's advocate. And by the way, there are GOOD people in the world who don't go to church because they are not CHRISTIANS. Did you know that?
Susan wasn't his publicist, she was his manager along with Alice in Chains and other Seattle based bands. Vicky is not Cornell's publicist and never was, whoever printed that made a huge mistake. THAT IS NOT HOW THEY MET. Remember, there were lots of people at the party where they met!
Before you rant against someone just because they have an opinion different than yours, why don't you tell us a little bit about your impeccable self? Cconsider this sweetie; there are those who know Vicky and maybe, just maybe, she's not sugar and spice and everything nice!

Posted by Morgan @ 06/28/2004 12:46 PM CST

And by the way, if she's so wonderful, how come he is drinking again? And I know this for a fact becuase I saw him myself with a bottle of beer in his hand, drinking, isn't he supposed to be a recovering alcoholic?
Drinking and smoking with a baby on the way? alex, any comments?

Posted by curious george @ 06/28/2004 12:50 PM CST

I think is ironic that you critized me for doing something that you just did yourself. i didn't insult you, i don't even know you, so why do you insult me? why do you take what i said so personal. i gave my opinion about something i don't agree with, I have a right to voice my opinions. i don't like a lot of things he's done especially that they got engaged and she got pregnant before he was divorced, i think that's awful; out of respect to his four year child, they could have waited until his divorce was final before getting pregnant. my opinion. And if you don't like what I have to say that's just too bad. FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!
By the way, I didn't know that going to a good school is what makes you a good person. Not everybody is rich, some people who don't have money are decent, even those people who go to public schools. it's the rich people who are into weird stuff because they can afford to. And even if i am a pig myself because i'm not ivy league, it's none of your damn business!
OINK! OINK! OINK!

Posted by Kristin @ 06/28/2004 02:14 PM CST

Hi everyone! I wasn't going to post anything but I changed my mind. I thought that the point of these forums was to be able to express our opinions freely without getting bashed because we think different than someone else does, even if our opinion is flat out nasty. That's the cool thing about sites like this one, you get to exchange opinions and even some facts with lots of different people.
Without meaning to offend you, Alex but I think your comments were inapprorpiate and kind of silly. A high end education does not ensure high moral standards, it just means you could pay for it, that's all. Tha's not a reason to think that someone is better than someone else. And honestly I don't think you have the right to tell anybody how to express themselves or what to think. And I don't think you can tell someone's education by what they choose to write on a forum, maybe the word pig was harsh, but that's her point of view. Who do you think you are to tell anyone they can't have an opinion?

Posted by Annie @ 06/28/2004 05:03 PM CST

Yes you are right there were many people at that party- my boss being one of them. Yes Vicky has been doing all the band's event publicity and I never said Susan was his publicist I was just pointing out that the same way they bashed her 15 years ago now they do to Vicky. And check again Susan got Soundgarden after she was already with Chris for a while and then came Alice in Chains years later and thats all- but I never said there was something wrong with thatAt the end of the day it isn't Vicky or Susan you bash but Chris. As for whoever saw him drinking Im sure that is possible but like everything else for now it's just a rumor. I don't mean to tell anyone what to think but would you like to have your personal life disected like that? Also if they got pregnant by accident what does that have to do with respecting his four year old? Also ofcourse I agree with you Annie high education doesn't mean high moral standards but neither does it mean you had money and got in, it also takes brains. All I point out is why do you so readily think she is bad based on rumors? She may be nice; and why do you assume it must be true she slept with him? It could be possible that she is smart and nice why is it that Chris had to choose a skank? I'm a really big fan of Chris's and I think this isn't fair to him. I may have been harsh but I was trying to prove a point.

Posted by Alex @ 06/28/2004 06:05 PM CST

Because darling, just like your boss "was there" so were some other people who know her and know who she is. Time will tell. I'm not bashing Chris or Susan, I am pointing out that Vicky is no angel.
I didn't know a Paris based publicity agency was handling ALL the band's event publicity. Thanks for the info. I really think you need to stop being so defensive and maybe take the whole thing with a grain of salt. It isn't the first time that a good man thinks with the wrong part of his anatomy. Think for a mintue, do the math and get your information straight. Just for the sake of argument, let's give her the benefit of the doubt, maybe she's changed. We shall see, shan't we?
That's all for now, my pretties. Goodbye!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 06/28/2004 06:30 PM CST

just out of curiosity, if she's in her lower twenties, how can she be that accomplished. Alex, you seem to be very informed about her, with your boss being at the party and all, amybe you've even met her. Do you know how old she is and if so, mind sharing with us the information? Thanks!

Posted by Kristin @ 06/28/2004 06:40 PM CST

I don't know exactly how old she is but I think in her mid 20s. Her and her brother do many of the big events here in Paris. They do most of the American celebrity events. They also represent luxury hotels and almost all of the chic places in Paris. She started and brought her brother into it- she became very well known here especially after opening the Man Ray in NY city- she did it alone with one assistant. She is really good at what she does. And it's not easy as an American in France you can be sure. I can tell you from experience being half American and half French that it is not at all easy. They have been around for about 4 years.
I didn't say they were handling all the bands event publicity but were responsible for the events in Paris(another one in London and Milan while they were on tour) But like I said they do many- we always get a communication on different events they do. Actually it was great for Vicky to have done the last one for Audioslave because so many bands were here at the same time but she managed to get alot of attention to Audioslave. I think Chris is great and again if I got defensive it was just to proove a point that we wouldn't like to have our private lives pried into like that. I could care less about Susan or Vicky I just think we put Chris down when we say things like that. And it is true that Susan was picked on the same way.
I can also tell you that Paris is very small and people here speak alot- it's like a village and the girl doesn't have a bad reputation. Morgan you may know something but it may or may not be true. People often lie but that doesn't rule out what you are saying. And yes many men think with the wrong parts more often than not. But let me fill you in on what may or may not be more bullshit rumors- I asked my boss today if it was true or had he heard something about Vicky and Chris leaving together at the first party; he said that the entire band, management, Garou (a very famous French singer) some of the celebs that were there all went to the GEORGE V. Im sure there was some after-party because they did the event at a restaurant/ bar that closes early. There were about 4 vans outside that took people over. Vicky and Chris got into the same van but were not alone. Also can tell you that Vickyis never out at night really what I hear they are really Greek like that. And you haven't seen Nick (who by the way is really hot)he wouldn't leave her out with some rocker.
I haven't met either Vicky or Nick but I know of them and have seen them - Nick much more often than Vicky because he does weekly parties as well.
I think we should be happy for Chris and hope the drinking again thing is just a rumor. Chris saved my life once and I can't help but feel something very special for him. I don't think Vicky is a bad girl but I hope not because they look very happy and in love- they are in Paris all the time so like I said people always talk. They are rumored to be here now - which makes sense since haute couture is coming up and Nick throws one of the biggest parties in Paris for his birthday every year always with many American celebrities.

Posted by Alex @ 06/28/2004 09:10 PM CST

There are 8.7 million people living in Paris as we speak. Being born, raised and living in Paris myself, to have it called small is well, how shall we say, ludicrous. Paris is one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the world along with London and Rome and New York. I honestly do not know what you are speaking of and I believe that neither do you!Pardonez moi, if this annoys you but what you say does not hold water, she's a great publicist/business woman but does not go out at night because she is very Greek? What the hell does being very-Greek-that-way mean? That seems a bit ethno-strange, yes? I wouldn't presume to know how people can be very Greek or very Polish or very Vulcan. And besides isn't she an American? Please keep your stories straight you are making my head spin. Coherence is very important when relating "facts" otherwise you loose credibilty. Also her brother wouldn't leave her with a rocker, but isn't that exactly what he did? After all, she is married to a rocker, she also managed to get pregnant by the same rocker while he was still someone else's husband. Is that also being Greek-in-that-way? A please do not give me that load of horse shit about the pregnancy being an accident. An Ivy League graduate has taken biology classes and since she is so accomplished she can afford birth control!
You, on the other hand, have successfully managed to insult a few people in the last few posts including Greeks.
Maybe I'm being unfair to you but I do not like people who say things that make no sense. You have contracticted yourself on pretty much everything you said while trying to make other people look stupid and ignorant. I sincerely hope you did not mean to insult anyone!
As far as his life being dissected, he is a public figure, he stands in front of people to perform, he has an audience he himslef has worked hard to gather and he has posted information regarding his private life for eveyone to ogle at. The pictures of him and Vicky at the Ivy were posted on his website, allors, you must reflectir un peu et etudies dans tous les details, oui?
Wasn't the announcement of his wedding posted on the Audioslave site, with the list of guests and who was the best man, etc, etc, besides there was footage of the wedding on Greek tv. If you don't won't people to see your business don't flaunt your businees. It comes with the territory of being famous. Celebrities can be private if they want to. He proposed on stage for all to see and hear, Give me a break! Public attention is what makes a star a star!
You can rant all you want but really what's the point, people like to talk and they will talk. Some people acually know a little more than others, this doesn't mean that Chris is a fool, I don't believe it for a minute but based on what I kinow, I firmly believe that she has done him a wrong turn and taken advantage of him and the situation. Time will tell...
P.S: Just so I don't forget: congratulate your boss on shadowing Chris and Vicky's the night of the party and NEVER leaving their sight!

Posted by Morgan @ 06/28/2004 11:45 PM CST

Just as an afterthought, how is it that you claim not to have met either Nick or Vicky but yet you know what Nick will let Vicky do? "And you haven't seen Nick (who by the way is really hot)he wouldn't leave her out with some rocker." quote, unquote.
You must be psychic, Dieu Merci, in which case kindly tell us the next lottery winning numbers. Mercy beaucoup et a bientot!

Posted by Morgan @ 06/29/2004 01:34 AM CST

To Alex, what the fuck is your problem with Greeks. You don't know the first thing about being Greek. I'm Greek and I can go out at night. There isn't a Greek law that forbids Greeks from leaving their houses at night, you pathetic cow!
This Morgan has shot down every one of your bullshit arguments and then some. you just have a groupie crush on Cornell, you admitted you would sleep with him right away, and because he married someone else you've appointed yourself his guardian angel. I think you are full of shit and you're just making crap up as you go along and are a fucking racist to boot.
From all my Greek peeps to you, including myself, FUCK OFF!!!
To the rest of you, have a very pleasant evening. Kalispera!

Posted by Eleni, one pissed off Greek @ 06/29/2004 01:45 AM CST

I'm from Phoenix, AR and there's about 1,321,045 people living here, this is the fifth or sixth largest city in the US. There are nine million people living in New York city. There's eight million people living in Paris. How is Paris small? It's like a village? Are you nuts?
Am assuming we are talking Paris, France, not Paris, TX, right Alex? have you ever even been to France?
You lying b...!

Posted by Eleni, still a pissed-off Greek @ 06/29/2004 02:15 AM CST

You said Chris saved your life, how?
Are you the girl that was caught in the river and couldn't swim against the current so he pulled you out and saved from drowing? I read that somewhere.

Posted by curious george @ 06/29/2004 12:14 PM CST

Just wondering, I remember the guys in Audioslave mentioning visiting Chris in his house in Ojai in 2002 - does anyone know if he still lives there (even part time) or if he still has a house there?

Posted by KC @ 06/29/2004 11:00 PM CST

if you(chris)reading this-I love you and always will,you are important to me, i'm sorry for my thoughts, I hope you and everything that important to you-love me(even though you don't know me but from your dreams you will understand). I need your mother's help,I'm sorry and always remember I love you,in my useless life you,your family,seattle -good anergy-it all started from you-chris-thank you all-thank you karen

Posted by c.j.c/b @ 07/04/2004 04:02 PM CST

I saw Chris and a beautiful, very pregnant woman today at the Grove in LA and they looked very happy browsing At PBK. So happy, I didn't have the heart to bother Chris and tell him how much I love his music.

Posted by MTQF @ 07/06/2004 11:35 PM CST

Check out http://stellartrips.blogspot.com for an interesting tidbit from the Cornell household. Apparently, she's still in the picture.

Posted by MJ @ 07/18/2004 07:07 PM CST

She looks very Greek. He's bisexual anyways. I wouldn't want to be married to that no matter how good looking...

Posted by Seattle Gossip Hound @ 07/20/2004 03:08 PM CST

Susan just celebrated her 46th birthday on July 17th. Chris turns 40 today.

Posted by Rosa @ 07/20/2004 07:26 PM CST

HAS ANYBODY ELSE READ THIS???
IT WAS POSTED ON A FRENCH LINK, BUT I CAN'T FIND IT ANYMORE.
AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE MISS VICKY HAS A TASTE FOR RICH BOYS AND CORNELL WAS THE ONE TO FALL FOR IT, BUT THIS GOES BEYOND EVERYTHING I KNEW SO FAR.
HERE GOES: IT SEEMS THAT SHE WAS TWO- TIMING CORNELL. OR ACTUALLY SHE HAD A BOYFRIEND AND STARTED DATING CORNELL AT THE SAME TIME. SHE WAS SEEN "COZY" WITH SOME OTHER GUY AT THE SAME TIME
AS SHE WAS SEEN "COZY" WITH CORNELL. SOME ACTOR/MODEL, GABRIEL SOMETHING OR OTHER, THERE WERE PICTURES OF HER WITH BOTH GUYS. AS SOON AS SHE WAS ENGAGED TO CORNELL SHE DUMPED HER BOYFRIEND AND WAS PREGNANT ALL AT THE SAME TIME, BUSY GIRL!!!OBVIOUSLY THE PERSON WHO WROTE THE ARTICLE DOESN'T LIKE HER VERY MUCH. THEY FLAT OUT CALLED HER A WHORE (THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES TO DO SO, THERE ARE LOTS OF "RUMORS" GOING AROUND, WAY TOO MANY), THEY WENT AS FAR AS TO SUGGEST THAT CORNELL GET A PATERNITY TEST AS SOON AS THE BABY IS BORN TO MAKE SURE ITS HIS! NO POINT IN RAISING SOME OTHER GUY'S KID.
ALSO, THEY MENTIONED SOME SCANDAL WAY BACK WHEN SHE WAS IN SCHOOL. HER FAMILY HAD TO SEND HER AWAY TO HUSH IT UP, THAT'S HOW SHE ENDED UP IN PARIS. HER FATHER SET HER BUSINESS UP, HE OWNS A PAPER FACTORY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND HER BROTHER JUST HAPPENS TO BE HER "PARTNER". THIS LAST BIT MIGHT NOT BE NEWS TO SOME BUT THERE IT IS...
IF ANY OF YOU HAS THE LINK PLEASE POST IT SO WE CAN ALL READ IT. IT'S IN ENGLISH ANYWAY.
FROM WHAT I PERSONALLY KNOW, MISS KARAYIANNIS IS FAR FROM BEING A SAINT BUT I NEVER THOUGHT SHE'D GO THIS FAR, BUT THINGS LIKE THIS CAN'T BE HIDDEN FOR VERY LONG. I JUST HOPE SHE'S CHANGED HER WAYS AND DIDN'T SINK THIS LOW. BUT I AGREE WITH THE AUTHOR OF THE ARTICLE, AT THIS POINT CORNELL MIGHT AS WELL GET THAT PATERNITY TEST AND MAKE SURE THAT HE'S NOT BEING PLAYED FOR A FOOL. HE MUST HAVE HEARD THE RUMORS BY NOW.
On a brighter note, how do you know he's bisexual?
I'm NOT doubting you, I'm just curious. Please tell us more!!!

Posted by MORGAN @ 07/23/2004 01:12 AM CST

Well, well, well, Mr. Cornell, you've really done it this time. First of all, Vicky is apparently ready to 'pop' and with this month being July, that means the baby was conceived in October last year. How very strange, isn't that the month when Chris and Vicky got engaged so suprisingly? This was followed by TWO very speedy weddings. My opinion, what's wrong with your head Cornell? It's been so far up Vicky's ass that you got the slut pregnant, bravo. Are you sure you're the same guy from the pre-Audioslave days? I think that guy's gone somewhere far, far away, he would never do something this dumb. OK, so Chris you 'hang' in French bars, impregnate and then marry a young (ugly)French asshole, go to tanning salons, have your publicist as a best-man, have bullshit friends like Brittany Murphy, Sean William Scott, etc., wear Von Dutch and classy-ass clothes... Dude, you have seriously fucked up your head. I think when you bleached your head, you breathed in too many fumes. All I can end with is that you have got yourself into one helluva rut and gotta break free from the arms of your pregnant bitch. And Lily, gee, she must be real proud of you...

Posted by Oh deary @ 07/23/2004 07:54 AM CST

Everybody assumed that it was Susan who couldn't conceive on account of being "older". But four years ago she was just 42 and that is not "old". Many women in their late forties, early fifties get pregnant without problems. Also it was saidthat Chris smoking didn't help things. But it isn't the smoking that causes all the trouble, although it doesn't help, it's the DRINKING. Alcohol kills a man's sperm count. So probably it was Chris, being a full fledged alcoholic for many, who couldn't get Susan pregnant. Sometimes the damage isn't reversible. If he was shooting blanks with Susan, he probably is shooting blanks with Vicky.
IT IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT VICKY ISN'T CARRYING CORNELL'S BABY.
This is a very nasty thing for a woman to do to a man. I honestly believe he should get a paternity test. if she's got nothing to hide there's no reason for her to refuse.
I also hope he's got a hell of a lawyer!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/23/2004 02:09 PM CST

vicky is a liar and a cheat. she eats off nick's credibility so she can be in the limelight. she was heard to of said, 'i fucked chris' brains out the other night, it was amazing.' she is not only a skank but a media whore who's tried to be famous for a long time. did u know chris only married her bcoz she was pregnant and she was pleading for him to stay with her and help support the baby? she had the intention of getting pregnant with him so she could have him, his money, his fame and his sex. she uses birth control but after meeting chris she stopped, fucking loser. she even backstabs susan and lily, chris' daughter doesn't get along with her at all. lily remains quiet and to herself when 'daddy and vicky' spend the day with her. vicky needs to be stoned and pissed on by all humanity and then we'll all shit on her grave, the motherfucker deserves it.

Posted by C@t @ 07/24/2004 12:06 AM CST

Well, well ,well... If the baby isn't his isn't she's going to have a pleasant surprise... I wonder if Cornell knows that Vicky was with someone else at the same time as she was with him? Everybody else seems to know so I have a hard time believing HE doens't know.
I don't know Chris, but I know her. She is really bad news, she's hurt a lot of people and caused a lot of trouble pretty much everywhere she's been. Cornell really needs to open his eyes and stop playing the idiot groom. He needs to find out if that baby is his, and honestly, knowing Vicky, I don't believe that child is Cornell's. And there no reason for him to let himself be used like that. I'm sorry ,I really am, I don't wish this kind of hurt on anyone, but from what I hear he seems to have lost his focus and his mind. She seems to have changed him so much even his closest friends don't recognize him and don't like what they see. They definately don't like her. His family doesn't like her. I was told Chris's mother figured Vicky out after two minutes of having met her, They don't get along at all.
Vicky has turned him into a METROSEXUAL, and he is so besotted with the birth of his son that he'll let her get away with anything.
Next thing we'll know he'll start acting and knowing Vicky like I do, nothing would give her more pleasure than to become a Hollywood wife. She was after an actor for a long time but he never took her seriously. This actor wanted something pretty, not something that looked so Greek. I'm quoting him!
Cornell needs to pull his head out of his hind quarters, -maybe he really has his head up her ass-, and stop acting like an idiot. If he isn't careful she'll ruin his career and then move on to someone else. Already there are rumors leaking out that not all is well in the Audioslave front. They'll never admit to it but it seems Cornell's prima donna act is getting on every one's nerves. From what I heard she's always around with her "delicate" nose where it don't belong. That girl needs a rhinoplasty, believe me ,I've seen her in person. By the way for all of you who are curious. Vicky is not beautiful, but in all fairness she is not that ugly either. She is about 5'4" or 5'5". She has a small frame but has wide hips, she could loose some weight in the rump and thigh area, she has small breasts and short legs. Her hands are stubby and ugly and she has horrible feet, the toes look like man toes, short and stumpy. Vicky is not femenine or gracefull at all. But her hair is beautifull and she dresses in designer clothes so she looks the part. She is also older than she appears. For those who haven't seen her without the glasses, her eyes are a very dark greenish brown, personally to me her eyes look like very dark brown with maybe a fleck of green. but nothing to have convulsions about. She had very bushy eye brows , that unibrow thing, but she's fixed that. She has a slightly high nasally voice that when she gets upset makes sound like a goat with nasal gongestion. She gets upset alot,
she'll have a rich bitch tantrum at least twice a day. so we've heard her whinning more than once, joy to us! She was picked on alot about her voice when she was in school. She wasn't exactly the IT girl. But her hair is really pretty, straight and very shinny. She's worn her hair like that for a VERY long time. She looks the same in all her pictures, including school pics. She also had a reputation for gettin the boys she likes, rich and famous, well almost all the boys she likes some were kept off limits, she didn't like that but her father intervened. Vicky is a spoilt brat. She's hurt a lot of people, Cornell is the present interest but certainly not the last, she'll find someone esle, people like her only use other people and when they are done they go away leaving a hell of a mess behind for friends and family to clean up. I'm suprised her mother is not fed up with her antics, I don't think her father speaks to Vicky very often. She's brought shame to the family more than once. It couln't have been easy for Cornell to be accepted by her family, with him being an alcoholic, that would have been seen as bringing shame to the family, a daughter marrying a drunk is not something traditional Greek families value. I was told that they kept Chris's addiction hidden from her father. She was ashamed to tell her family Chris has a drinking problem, so most of them don't know. Probably Mr Karayiannis would have forbidden the wedding or maybe not since she was pregnant and that was the real problem that needed solving ASAP.
What a hell of a mess. What have this people done here?How did a 40 year old man who already has a four year old child, and was still married to the mother of his child, end up entangled with some like this Vicky, can he possibly by this daft?
He seems like such a nice person, before he started changing clothes and getting that fake tan, he looks like a shrivelled up orange, he really looks very fake lately and that's dissapointing to many of his true fans. It seems that for this woman he has compromized his integrity. Lots of people are let down by this.
Personally, I think it's just a phaze his going through' he'll snap out of it as soon as he meets a woman, not a child, but a woman he can have an interestin conversation with. Someone who actually wants to talk to him about intelligent things with her clothes ON!!!! Or if that baby turns to be someone else's son then, the wake up call comes a lot quicker than expected.
I want to say that I don't wish Chris Cornell any harm. I'm not a fan of his music but I do know who he is, my antagonism is not directed towards him, I don't like Vicky I know what she is capable of and it is very ugly.
IF BY ANY OF THOSE WEIRD CHANCES YOU HAPPEN TO READ THIS, KNOW THAT NONe OF US WISHES YOU ILL, MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS POST ARE FANS THAT ADMIRE YOU AND DON'T WANT YOU TO GET HURT. THEY FEEL THAT WAY OUT OF THE BOND THAT GROWS BETWEEN THE MUSICIAN AND THOSE WHO LIKE WHAT THEY HEAR HIM SING. sO EVERYBODY HERE WANTS YOU TO BE HAPPY.
I know that woman, happiness with will be fleeting at best. You have the right to ask for a patternity test and legaly she cannot deny you. Get the test, Chris, you need to know whose baby you are holding. If it's what we believe it to be then Im sorry. Nobody deserves that kind of betrayal. But you have a right to know!!!I don't think you are alone though, take you designer glasses off and look aroud , from what I hear there are people who care for regardless of how you've treated tham lately. THEY ARE RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSE!
Maybe you should go home alone, play with you kid and think this through. What do you think might happen?

Posted by Morgan @ 07/24/2004 03:30 AM CST

chris, what the fuck have u done? y r u with such a cunt-face lying piece of shit, LMAO, I would b sooooooooo embarassed if i was u, she looks like a fake, orange gargoyle. i really feel for lily, having a stupid motherfucker for a step-mom, cornell, you've gone fucking crazy. P.S. U call that a moustache? It looks like a strip of shit and your 'goatee' (probably) looks like Vicky's down under, what happened to your REAL facial hair?!? (and clothes, and skin-colour, and voice, ...). You've lost it dude and i hope u see this website and reconsider ur shitty actions.

Posted by cornell's worse than courtney! @ 07/24/2004 07:09 AM CST

Morgan - do you know when the baby is due? How do you know it's a boy? I wonder if they can find out paternity before the baby is born..

Posted by KC @ 07/24/2004 11:21 AM CST

i'm sorry KC but I can't tell you how I know because then somebody would get in trouble for "talking", eventually everything will come into the open anyway and everybody is going to find everything out. It's just a matter of time!
I was told it's a boy because Vicky herself is bragging about giving Cornell a son which is something Susan couldn't do. I wonder if Cornell knows that Vicky makes thiese comments.

Posted by Morgan @ 07/24/2004 03:02 PM CST

i'm sorry KC but I can't tell you how I know because then somebody would get in trouble for "talking", eventually everything will come into the open anyway and everybody is going to find everything out. It's just a matter of time!
I was told it's a boy because Vicky herself is bragging about giving Cornell a son which is something Susan couldn't do. I wonder if Cornell knows that Vicky makes thiese comments.

Posted by Morgan @ 07/24/2004 03:02 PM CST

I forgot to mention that knowing Vicky, she could be lying about the sex of the baby just to get attention to herself. Some cultures still value a son over a daughter more. Whatever!!!
There's a lot of talk in Paris about her, and it's not "good" talk. Somebody threatened to expose her in public and get even for what she's done so far. You can't hurt people and expect to get away with it every single time. i wonder if the person who wrote the article I read is one of the people she hurt? I wonder how many more photos are circulating around?
Time will tell.
Sorry about the repeated message, I must have hit the enter key twice!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/24/2004 03:07 PM CST

To add to what C@t said about Vicky's big mouth. She told her "friends" that Cornell is not that good in bed because he fumbles a lot and is very insecure about his performance, she even said that he is not really that endowed, she wasn't this polite when describing his manhood but I won't quote her word by word, she said he is "very skinny and not at all that long, he is very shy and insecure about what to do and can be a little quick, sometimes it just doesn't happen at all, he doesn't want to come up and play, she also said she needs to do all the work..." Isn't this romantic? Does he know she talks this way about him with her so called "friends"? What's more important: does she know her "friends" then go telling other people what she said?
This girl is really bad news!!! She should never betray his privacy like this. What happens between two people in the bedroom should stay between those two people. This is really nasty! I think more and more people are going to "blab" about what they know and when the sh... hits the fan alot of people are going to get splattered!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/24/2004 03:25 PM CST

She said that she was surprised the first time she saw him naked because with him being so tall she expected him to be bigger, but his privates are not proportionate with his height and she was a little dissappointed by this. Now all of Paris knows that mr. Cornell is lacking in the "down under" department. It also seems that he is a bit of a "red head", catch my drift?
Cornell is a true Irish man!!!

Posted by me @ 07/24/2004 03:37 PM CST

I'm kind of confuded... whrre do you get all this information? where do you read such thungs?... Ok, this is all strange, specially because we all "know" Chris, and we read his interviwes, we all have an ideia of who he is and what he stands for, but... Like I read once before, he is the only one who knows what's passing in his head, he goes to sleep with himself and wake up with him too... So, wo are we to say what's wrong and right?Give him a break... he has the right to make mistakes like we all do... And maybe this is real one if it is true, but let him find out, it´s his path... We can´t live other's lifes eaven when we want to protect someone... Everything is eternal while it lasts... Be happy****

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/24/2004 09:51 PM CST

who is nick?

Posted by am @ 07/24/2004 10:00 PM CST

Nick is Vicky Karayiannis' brother. and to answer sunnyenergy, Chris is not the issue; Vicky is. Some people just happen to know Vicky in person. A lot of people do, both in Paris and in the US, and a lot of people know her past and the things she has done. As far as knowing what Chris stands for, how can anybody know what he stands for when as you yourself said "he is the only one who knows what's passing in his head, he goes to sleep with himself and wake up with him too". He has a right to make mistakes, we all do but people also have a right to their opinions and this is what posting in a forum is about; sharing your thought and opinions and sometimes facts with other people, even if such opinions are harsh or flat out nasty. Everybody deserves to be heard!
PEACE!!!

Posted by me @ 07/24/2004 11:23 PM CST

morgan i know that you can't say who are but i was just wondering who do you know more chris or vicky or both? i don't know but all of this stuff im reading about them is just really overwhelming and the worst part is i believe it i wish it wasn't true.frustrating

Posted by am @ 07/24/2004 11:28 PM CST

I feel a bit naive here, but what do you mean by "red head" and being a true Irish man?

Posted by Toni @ 07/24/2004 11:46 PM CST

How old is Vicky anyway? I've heard reports ranging from 21 to late 20s..

Posted by KC @ 07/24/2004 11:48 PM CST

Nick or Nikos, which is how some call him. his name is Nikolaos Karayiannis and he is Vicky's older brother.
Unfortunately, I know Vicky!!!
Irish men have a tendency to have redish or flat out red hair, EVERYWHERE!!!
I agree that everybody deserves to make mistakes but having you wife pass her baby as your own when it is not goes beyond making a mistake. This is way too much even for someone like her. Nobody deserves to be lied to and hurt like that. Nobody, I don't care what anybody says. This is my opinion and I stand by it. Something like that would break anybodies heart no matter how strong they where.
I have heard some of her comments, hell, everybody around her has. But even her friends are getting tired of it. She's actually lost friends over some of this stuff. Her one really close friend in Paris isn't that close to her anymore.
What goes around, comes around!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/25/2004 12:05 AM CST

I've read stuff where people have seen them together and always say they llook happy together. If Vicky talks all the time, do es she ever say she loves Chris?? OR is it just she loves being married to someone like Chris with all the attention and money and stuff. Does she ever say good things about her husband??!

Posted by SG Gal @ 07/25/2004 12:19 AM CST

Sounds like Cornell is on too many anti-depressants. Seriously, a buddy of mine is on those things and fucked up shit doesn't even register. They change you too.
I know Cornell may not want to deal, but he needs to wake up from his happy place and take a good look around.

Posted by Toni @ 07/25/2004 01:08 AM CST

Morgan - does Vicky actually compare herself to Susan like that? (Saying that she can give Cornell a son and Susan couldn't.) That's pretty tacky.

Posted by KC @ 07/25/2004 02:32 AM CST

It is extremly tacky and mean and yes, she does it. i don't know if she tells him, but she's told other people.
I can honestly say I've never heard Vicky say anything nice about anybody. She talks about work, the places she goes to, perfume, shoes, handbags, etc... oh, and I almost forgot, her Chanel sun glasses. So needless to say... Actually she did say the stone in her ring was big, I'm assuming that meant she liked it. And there was that time when she and Chris were going through a rough patch, there was some kind of "misunderstanding" about him still being married, and she said she "wasn't going to let this one get away". I guess that could be interpreted either in a good way or a bad one.
I really hope I'm wrong about her this time. I hope for his sake, the sake of the baby and her sake too, that she has finally grown up and straightened up. It's nice to believe that people can change for the better, I have my serious doubts but nevertheless there's a new baby coming so let's all hope things will work out. Either way things are going to be seen for what they really are in the end. Time will tell.
Goodnight for now guys. Take care!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/25/2004 03:29 AM CST

Is it ok to ask how do know her? It's just that i've read more than once the expression "i know her"... And if you really know her, I really hope you're wrong... We all do... :)***

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/25/2004 07:18 AM CST

Just curious, when did this "rough patch" happen, do you remember? Was it, by any chance, approximately 9 months ago or so?
I have to wonder, if Vicky didn't get pregnant, would Chris have ever divorced Susan? They were 'separated' for a while it seems, without actually divorcing until recently. I know he was raised Catholic, and I believe the values taught in that kind of upbringing really frown on divorce (espcially when the couple has children). Plus I could see having your parents divorce as a kid could make a person reluctant to do that to their own child as well.. just thinking out loud here. I honestly believe Chris is a good man, and my gut instinct is telling me he wouldn't hurt his daughter by just casually throwing away his first marriage. It just doesn't add up, so hearing all this about Vicky makes almost too much sense.. (Again, just thinking out loud.)

Posted by KC @ 07/25/2004 12:32 PM CST

Your question is very fair sunnyenergy, so I will try to answer it without giving myself away. i have eprsonally know "her" for several years. I spend half my time in Paris and half my time in the US. I hope I'm wrong too!
Yes it was about that time that things got rough, although it hasn't been smooth sailing all the way. They've had "issues" all along. I don't believe for a minute he would have married her if she hadn't gotten pregnant. From what I have heard of him, he really is a good man, too good. He happens to be a very decent person and very loyal. So of course he would do right by any woman he believed he'd gotten pregnant.
I forgot to ask, has anybody found the French link? If you have please post it!!! I think I know who wrote it, maybe I could convince them to post here.

Posted by Morgan @ 07/25/2004 02:47 PM CST

I really need to work on my spelling!!! Sorry about that!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/25/2004 02:49 PM CST

I just wanted to say that I wish I could tell you all who I am and how I know everything I know but I think that would do a lot of harm. I don't like all this subterfuge but I believe things need to take their natural course and Chris needs to find out about her by himself. Things have to run their course. I am just hoping that the people who know her will come forward and tell what they know, but I think that just like me they don't want to hurt anyone, especially the baby. Eventually though I know everything will be known. As soon as that baby is born, things will change and he is going to find out everything. Also, I would hate to be the one responsible for blowing her cover, I think I would feel very guilty about it even if she deserves to be exposed for the cheat that she is.
I'll say this, I won't say if I went o schoiol with her or not but I've known her since then. She has always been superficial, spoilt and kind of nasty, never to this extent, but she's never been nice. Somehow she's always gotten away with it but I don't think her "good luck" is going to last her for much longer. Too many people pissed off at her. Especially the guy she dumped for Cornell!
Anyway, if you know anything about her post it, information is power!!!
Thanks

Posted by Morgan @ 07/25/2004 03:58 PM CST

thanks for the explanations Morgan. :) Now I can say that everything that as been said here makes sense... I was just wondering how someone so thoughtful, introspective and critical would fall into all this Vicky thing... Eaven accepting all this as a fact, I really think that there's something we don't know... And in my opinion it's not a pregnancy that would make chris marry her... Well... Let's wait and see... By the way, I'm portuguese and greeks beated us on the euro 2004 (football), so, I don´t like them... hehe just kidding ;)

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/25/2004 06:46 PM CST

Don't worry the Spaniards will have their hides if not some other team!
As far as falling for Vicky, remember he'd just come out of rehab, his marriage to Susane was not going well, the band wasn't doing so well live either, it would have been very easy for someone used to manipulating people to get to him. Flattering a man's ego is very effective, underhanded but effective. She might have said and done the right things and won him over. Don't underestimate her, I surely don't, she is very cunning and a very good actress. She comes off as very sweet and cute when she wants to be!!! That's how people fall for her.
We didn't even know she was dating Cornell because she had a boyfirend. Whenever she was spotted with Chris she'd say it was for business, being a publicist and all. So when she got engaged we just couldn't believe it. And then all of a sudden she was pregnant and that just left us all speechless. When asked who the father was she'd just giggle, around five months into her pregnancy she started bragging about having a boy and outdoing Susan and that's when people started giving her the cold shoulder and she had no choice but to be with Chris pretty much all the time. She had no one else to be with. She was left with a couple of friends but even those kind of avoid her now. From what I know Chris is really happy with the baby and was really happy from the beginning so he might have married her because he really wanted a family.

Posted by Morgan @ 07/25/2004 07:03 PM CST

Thank you for posting Morgan. At least someone is talking about it!! So many people talk about how it's none of their business, but would they let something like this happen to a brother or son or good friend and not say something??!
I tried looking for the link but Google just isn't cutting it! Say, do you know where there are pictures of her besides the ones from the Ivy??

Posted by SG Gal @ 07/25/2004 07:51 PM CST

yeah it makes sense... But I don't know... I'm really trying to understand all this, Untill i found this site I had no ideia of what was going on with Chris... Now about the "flattering", don't you think he was receiving enough of that? He is considered a sex symbol, admired for his music... He said so many times that all of this attention made no sense to him... I'm sorry, it doesn´t matter what you say to me, I still find all this hard to believe... Thank you Morgan for the way you expose your ideas, you do it very well :)**

Posted by yeah @ 07/25/2004 08:48 PM CST

By the way, the nick above it's sunnyenergy.. not yeah.. lol sorry ;)

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/25/2004 08:49 PM CST

One thing Morgan... What are spaniards? I didnt't understand that part..lool

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/25/2004 08:58 PM CST

And thanx from me as well, Morgan. By the way, you've mentioned that you think eventually everything will be known - what if no one actually speaks out? I once dated a player from another town and none of his friends spoke up - it took me forever to realize the situation. If no one says anything to Chris, how is he supposed to know? Men don't usually ask for paternity tests if they trust their spouse, and just asking for one wouldn't go over well with most new wives. Just thinking that it may not be that easy..
When is the baby due anyway?

Posted by KC @ 07/25/2004 09:12 PM CST

Spaniards are the Spanish team! I think they are one of the strongest soccer teams right now, am I right? My soccer savvy has gotten a little rusty lately. We are talking soccer, right? Gee, I think am turning into a goofball!
There are a lot of "rumors" floating around. People are talking and eventually someone if not Chris himself, is bound to read what is being posted. If not, right now I just don't have the courage to just blab everything out. If she wasn't pregnant I guess do something to let him now but, what if the baby really is his and becuase of something I say they quarrel or worse? Even though I know she is an awful person I would feel very guilty about interfering directly into their lives. Besides would he believe an outsider? He needs to find out on his own. He might not want to believe anything negative about her. She can be sweet and also come across as very competent and smart, which she is. Don't believe for a minute that Vicky is stupid, she is extremely smart and if she wasn't such a b... she could do a lot of good.
As far as Chris knows, they are very much in love and are having a baby. I'm not going to be the one to burst that bubble. We just have to wait and see. As I said before, time will tell.
Honestly, I think someone is going to talk to him. There's just too much anger towards her for people to hold their tongues for much longer. I just don't want to be the one to do it. I know, I am total coward but there you have it. My point is that there are just too many "rumors" for people to just dismiss them as just rumors. That's why I'm asking that if you know something just post it, do it anonymously, nobody needs to know who you are, just tell what you know, even if it's positive. The more information out there, the higher the chances Chris will find out sooner than later. I have to say the he is very lucky to have people like yourselves that care so much about him, from what I've seen of him, he is really nice. Don't get me wrong I'm not a friend of his or anything of the sort but I have seen him. Knowing her obviously I've seen him (in Paris).
By the way, KC, I'm sorry you had to go through a tough time with that guy, nobody deserves to be hurt like that.
I hope you are doing well now, and believe me he'll get what's coming to him. I firmly believe that what goes around comes around. Maybe I'm naive but I think Karma is very real.

Posted by Morgan @ 07/25/2004 10:29 PM CST

Sorry KC, I forgot to answer you last question. Unless she also lied about when she got pregnant, she should be due any time soon, mid August the latest and that's stretching it.

Posted by Morgan @ 07/25/2004 10:40 PM CST

Spaniards as you say didn't pass the 1st part of the competition... the last game, the final was beteween portugal and greece... and portugal lost... :( just to inform you... :P And about the part of telling or not what you know... well it's complicated, but I believe as you already said that something will come to Chris, eaven knowing that no one besides the persons envolved have something to do with it, friends will shake him... Look, we ar worried, but we don't really know him.. Imagine the ones who really are part of his life... They are not blind... Lets trust them :)

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/25/2004 10:55 PM CST

I meant next "season". Isn't there a yearly competition in Europe? I don't care anyway, as long as Batistuta and Beckham play, we have something to watch! OH..., and don't forget Baggio!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/26/2004 12:43 AM CST

Didn't it seem strange that the rest of the guys from Soundgarden and the guys from Eleven where not at either of Cornell's weddings? Do you think they are still speaking to each other?

Posted by me @ 07/26/2004 01:35 AM CST

vicky's a fucking ho. she does brag about carrying a boy. chris came to me raising some 'issues' he wanted to talk to someone about. he was telling me how he is a little uncomfortable with vicky but is delighted about the baby. we had a long chat, it's good that he feels comfortable to talk to me. i don't know whether i should say what else he tells me but i can definately say he thinks the relationship should be better, WAY better. if u guys have any questions, gimme a yell.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/26/2004 02:50 AM CST

Oh... please, let's get real here!!!
What bunch of bull.

Posted by me @ 07/26/2004 03:49 AM CST

to 'me', i dunno if your response was towards me but this is unfortunately the absolute truth. i've known chris since 1984 and are still friends to this day. i met him back in seattle when i went to his apartment, i was dating his roomate. we only lasted a few weeks, but we stayed friends. i've always been bud with chris from then and i have musical training to, the business side. chris is still buds with the rest of the soundgarden and eleven crew but due to schedules, they don't see eachother much but yeah they're still friends. i dunno why they weren't at the wedding, maybe his new 'fashionable' friends took their place, no offence chris.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/26/2004 06:54 AM CST

If you do have access to Chris the way you say you do, and I'm not doubting you, maybe you could talk to him about what is being said. He seems to confide in you so maybe you could suggest that he either read what is being posted or you could tell him you've read it and suggest he get a paternity test. I know the mother might not like it, but if she's got nothing to hide then what's the problem?

Posted by Morgan @ 07/26/2004 12:25 PM CST

There is just one thing about what you said that is a bit odd. I know for a fact that Eleven and Cornell did not part on friendly terms. There are several interviews were what they say about him is not nice. They resented him for leaving them hanging. They were not invited to either weddings. But maybe they have patched things up lately?
Also, from what "she" said she did not want the guys from Soundgarden at her wedding, she doesn't like them and she said the feeling is mutual!!! Do you know if this is true?

Posted by Morgan @ 07/26/2004 12:36 PM CST

The reason I'm asking is because she has lied about so many things that it is hard to keep track. We don't know what to believe anymore. You know things from Chris' perspective, I only have "her" version of things and what I know of her from my personal experience.

Posted by Morgan @ 07/26/2004 01:31 PM CST

I really don't know if I believe this whole issue about Vicky , I mean, I don't know if all of this things that said here are true,I'm really confused,there is a big posiblity that some people are lying here and making stories, I need some proofs,I really love chris with all my heart and I need to know only the truth about his life,I can't stand people who are lying about other people's life,I'm sorry if I hurt somebody's feelings but this is my opinion and PLEASE I need proofs.

Posted by lucy @ 07/26/2004 04:17 PM CST

I really don't see what anybody would gain by lying about this stuff. It's not like we are going to get rich or get famous or rise in social standing by posting this stuff on a forum. Outside of "our" immediate circle, I don't think there are that many people who care about this whole thing. And personally, without wanting to offend anybody, I don't give damn whether I'm believed or not, I also have no obligation to provide proof, besides what exactly would constitute "proof", how does anybody know if the actual "proof" is real?
Most of what has been discussed here, is posted all over the internet. There are interviews and pictures and there are too many people with "rumors" for the whole thing to be just one big lie. Unless there is a big international conspiracy to bring Vicky down. Frankly, I don't think she's that important. Besides I don't see what your love for Chris has to do with Vicky 's bad character. This isn't about Chris, it's about her.
I don't want to be believed.
WHAT AM ASKING IS FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO KNOW SOMETHING, AND THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO DO KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, WHETHER IT BE GOOD OR BAD, TO POST WHAT THEY KNOW. THIS IS NOT ABOUT BEING BELIEVED, THIS IS ABOUT STOPPING A VERY NASTY GIRL FROM HURTING MORE PEOPLE.
Do some research and find out for yourself. Compare dates, look at photos, read articles, you can even find out when Chris and Susan got divorced; it's a public record in the state of WA. (Vicky said that it was filed in King County Courthouse). Now how would I know that? When or where Cornell got divorced is something else I don't give a rat's ass about!
You have a right to have doubts and you have a right to voice them but before you go calling people liars you need to be 100% sure that you know what you are saying.
I really don't see why the hell either me or anybody else would lie about his, it's not like its our baby?
WHERE IS YOUR "PROOF" THAT WE ARE LYING???

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT LUCY; KINDLY FUCK OFF!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/26/2004 05:43 PM CST

I have been giving this a lot of thought and the more I think about it the more it annoys me. I really don't see what anybody would gain by lying about this stuff.
We are all posting under an assumed name, unless you believe that someone named their child "superunknown" or that my name really is Morgan. As lovely as that name is, it's not my birth name. I'm trying to be anonymous hereand not get caught. So I don't know how lying would benefit me. Chances are we will never know who the people posting here are so what's the point in lying?
As far as proof is concerned, this isn't a trial so I stand by my final thought. Lucy; FUCK OFF!
I don't think I will be posting anything else again.
"Superunknown" if you really know Chris I think it is time for you to speak up. I spoke to Margot today, Vicky knows who she is, and this is what Margot had to say:Vicky's ex is threatening to come the US and demand a paternity test because he believes it is his baby and not Cornell's kid Vicky is carrying. Chris needs to get that test done ASAP! Do what you have to do and tell Chris already!
Everybody; it's been fun.
Take care and hope for the best!!!
I'll check in from time to time. Bye!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/26/2004 10:16 PM CST

Morgan, don't let one annoying person chase you away - the rest of us are glad you came here! And I wanted to say 'Thank you' for what you said to me above, especially since getting played by someone you love is one of the worst things that can happen to you. The thought that Karma could be real does help, because too often people get away with hurting each other and NO ONE DOES A THING!! It really, really sucks and I'm glad you spoke up here, because at least someone is trying to get the word out to prevent that kind of hurt from happening. I wish someone had said something to me! So, again, thank you.

Posted by KC @ 07/26/2004 10:42 PM CST

..and don't go!

Posted by KC @ 07/26/2004 10:43 PM CST

Hi, I don't post here at all, but I've been reading everybody's comments over the last few days, and the stuff I've been reading is very interesting. Morgan, I don't think you should stop posting just because of one thing one person said, if that's the reason. That's just my opinion, though.

Posted by glorifiedg @ 07/26/2004 10:50 PM CST

I know I said I wouldn't post anymore but someone very silly, said I didn't have the nerve to post Vicky's address. Never dare someone who is sillier than you, so her goes:
Vicky karayiannis
3 Rue de Cerisoles 75008
Paris, France.

I'll go a bit further, here's the phone: 01-47-20-59-97

Posted by Morgan @ 07/26/2004 11:56 PM CST

I know I said I wouldn't post anymore but someone very silly, said I didn't have the nerve to post Vicky's address. Never dare someone who is sillier than you, so her goes:
Vicky karayiannis
3 Rue de Cerisoles 75008
Paris, France.

I'll go a bit further, here's the phone: 01-47-20-59-97

Posted by Morgan @ 07/26/2004 11:56 PM CST

I know I said I wouldn't post anymore but someone very silly, said I didn't have the nerve to post Vicky's address. Never dare someone who is sillier than you, so her goes:
Vicky karayiannis
3 Rue de Cerisoles 75008
Paris, France.

I'll go a bit further, here's the phone: 01-47-20-59-97

Posted by Morgan @ 07/26/2004 11:56 PM CST

I know I said I wouldn't post anymore but someone very silly, said I didn't have the nerve to post Vicky's address. Never dare someone who is sillier than you, so her goes:
Vicky karayiannis
3 Rue de Cerisoles 75008
Paris, France.

I'll go a bit further, here's the phone: 01-47-20-59-97

Posted by Morgan @ 07/26/2004 11:56 PM CST

I know I said I wouldn't post anymore but someone very silly, said I didn't have the nerve to post Vicky's address. Never dare someone who is sillier than you, so her goes:
Vicky karayiannis
3 Rue de Cerisoles 75008
Paris, France.

I'll go a bit further, here's the phone: 01-47-20-59-97

Posted by Morgan @ 07/26/2004 11:56 PM CST

I know I said I wouldn't post again, but someone very silly said I wouldn't dare to post Vicky's address. Never dare someone sillier than you, so here goes:
Vicky Karayiannis
3 Rue de Cerisoles, 75008 - Paris
France
I'll go a tiny bit further, here's the phone:
01-47-20-59-97

I believe YOU owe me 200 euro! Thank you!

By the way KC, Thank you, what you said was extremely nice and I'm very grateful to you. Obviously the guy was an idiot! Sometimes people can't see the how lucky they are and how good they have it. HIS LOSS!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/27/2004 12:03 AM CST

Sorry guys, I posted it six times but she really was testing me. She said I didn't have the guts! Humph, me not have the guts!!! Really, of all the nerve!
By the way Margot, say hello to everybody, everybody meet Margot. She's in Paris. and there's about nine hours difference from here to there, it's about three am over there, so she is obviously an insomniac.
Bear with me, everyone, I was trying to win a bet, I didn't mean to bore people by repeating a message a hundred times. Won't do it again, promise. She still owes me money though!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/27/2004 12:08 AM CST

GUYS, AM REALLY SORRY ABOUT REPEATING THE MESSAGE THAT MANY TIMES. THAT WAS REALLY INCONSIDERATE OF ME. IF ANY OF YOU KNOWS HOW TO DELETE MOST OF THE MESSAGES PLEASE DO! AGAIN I'M SORRY ABOUT TAKING UP SO MUCH SPACE!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/27/2004 12:45 AM CST

i think its funny

Posted by me @ 07/27/2004 01:59 AM CST

good job morgan. haha, i wish i had the name 'superunknown' as a birth name, it's catchy, i'm under this alias because i thought it was clever with sg's album and all. morgan, alot of people are going to start sending stuff to vicky now, haha, that will be such a laugh. for those people saying, 'well if you know bla bla bla and bla bla bla, what about bla bla bla...' look, i got nothing to gain by posted this and neither does other people who personally know chris, vicky and others. so you either listen or fuck off, no offence.

believe me, when chris first met vicky he was very much in love. he told me, 'i think this woman is who i'm going to spend the rest of my life with, i have this feeling.' i believed him but he has never said this to me again. when i met her i thought she was nice but she gave me this, 'umm yeah, nice to meet you' look. i ignore it but when i saw her again she really gave me this look, i replied with a 'fuck off, stupid bitch' look. he does know vicky's the gossiping type but hey, i told him he should of thought of that first before getting into a relationship with her, he didn't say anything. about a month ago i kinda hinted to him to get a paternity test with 'people being people these days' he laughed and said yeah. i dunno if he meant that jokingly, i can't exactly ask him.

chris was on good grounds with eleven but after 16 or so years, things finally went to his head. this explains why he has made so many crap decisions over good decisions.

with vicky being herself, she musn't like the boys from sg, hell, i don't think she gets on with the audioslave boys, especially tom.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/27/2004 03:20 AM CST

morgan, have you met chris yet? are you ex-friends with vicky. once when i saw her, she was with another woman but i don't know who it is, i doubt that it's you since you're not insane and all.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/27/2004 03:24 AM CST

I don't know how she could possibly get along with Tom. He seems a very no-nonsense guy, I don't think he could put up with her for more than two minutes. I have met Chris on repeated occasions but I have never socialized with him. When I see them I try to leave before they see me, I always get the feeling that if I speak to him for a long time I'm going to grab him by the collar and shake him until he snaps out of it. It's hard to know things and not be able to say anything at all. That's why posting like this helps a lot.
What made him stick around, do you know? If he had doubts, why didn't he leave? I know its none of my business. It's his private life but I wish he had just followed his gut instinct and left.
Can you just imagine that you are just married, you are expecting a baby, basically you have a started a new seemingly wonderful life, and one day some guy you have never met, shows up and says that the baby your wife is expecting in his not yours?
I can't think of anything more awfull. Even if the baby turns out to be yours after all, she's been with someone else and with you at the same time. Nothing is ever going to change that kind of betrayal.
What gets to me is that she has no reason for making this mess. Everybody says Chris is a really nice man, he was always nice to me, he is nice to look at, he is talented, from what I heard he is not a womanizer and he wants a family. That sounds pretty good to me. Vicky could have a charmed life. Think about it; it's pretty close to being perfect, but no..., she has to go and be the snake that she has always been. I just don't get it.
This is really ugly, the more I think about it and the uglier it gets. It gives me the creeps.
You were joking about my not "being insane and all" but maybe she is. Maybe there's something pathological about her. I can't think of another explanation. I have never really been her friend, it has always been very difficult for me to trust her, but we see each other on a regular basis, or did, and we have friends in common, or we did. As I said, people are avoiding her like the plague. Her bad reputation is rubbing off on people and people don't like to look bad. If people start sending stuff to her, Chris might see it and finally react, who knows, maybe something good will come out of all this after all!
You sound like you care for him very much, 'superunknown'. I hope he's got more people like you around him.

Posted by Morgan @ 07/27/2004 05:15 AM CST

yeah very right morgan. oh yeah, chris has lots of people who he can turn to but h doesn't feel comfortable opening up to some people. i've always trusted him and he's always trusted me, we have respect for eachother. that brings me to the next point, unfortunately, i don't think i should say too much on why chris stays with vicky, guess he's just blinded by fake love. i've known him for around 20 years and this is the craziest thing he's done, being with a woman like her. he used to smell woman like that a mile away when he was younger. now, it's like he's lost his sense of smell. he's relationship with susan was great but it was hard when she retired and he quit soundgarden, for the first real time, they were alone. no bandmates, no agents, no people crowding their way. after being together for so long, i guess that they weren't comfortable being ALONE together. chris was in rehab a little while before little lily was born, he's relationship bloomed with susan, then shriveled up, he wasn't completely sober anymore. susan didn't want a drunk father for her baby, who would, plus a few other problems contributed to their divorce. right now, i have no idea what chris is doing with his life, hopefully he can take control again.

vicky isn't someone who deserves such a great man. she'll get what's coming to her in time, everything will clear up so all you vicky-haters, bare with us.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/27/2004 06:30 AM CST

That wasn't really nice,I'm just trying to give my opinion here,I didn't ment to hurt anybody,I just wanted to be sure that you telling the truth about people chris love,that's all.SORRY AGAIN!!!

Posted by lucy @ 07/27/2004 06:36 AM CST

oh, chris told me he was going to buy her a car, this was last year and asked and discussed what cars are good. that was a hard conversation. thatone of them at 'the ivy' might be the one, i dunno, looks like a car chris would buy though.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/27/2004 06:37 AM CST

lucy on behalf of morgan, i'm sure she was a little frustrated (hopefully), you are entitled to your opinion so no need for apologizing.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/27/2004 06:40 AM CST

Well, we all know that some kinds of love blind people... But there's a point when we kind of listen and see more that the person we love... Like friends, like rumors, actions, attitudes that don't seem so great as they looked before... Superknown, you said that you've known Chris for more than 20 years, and I'm kind of telling you this because non of his fans have the oportunity to get so close to him, or on the other way, he wouldn't trust us in the same way he would with you... So, eaven knowing he has the right to his private life, why don't you or someone he really trust yeld at him all of this, and I say yeld, 'cause probably i t will be the only way he will listen... Just to make him think... Maybe this is a completly nonsense idea, but I can't think in a better way tom meke him look for what´s going on... Imagine he looks at the letters sent to Vicky, perhaps he will think we are all crazy to try to interfere with his life, that's what I'm afraid of about our comments... Eaven though let's keep trying :) ***

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/27/2004 06:51 AM CST

You are so right sunnyenergy!!

Posted by lucy @ 07/27/2004 07:00 AM CST

haha, those letters will go rolling in. well, chris is kinda difficult to comfront, he simply doesn't listen. no matter how hard you try and how many times you try, he won't listen. back in the days, if you explained how much sense something is, he'd listen but he's not the same guy anymore, he doesn't listen to anyone - except for vicky of course. vicky knows to well that she's got him on a leash... hopefully she'll show SOME consideration to the baby atleast, we're praying. but, if she ever neglects that baby in one way or if it isn't his, he would not take a second to walk outta the door. that's the only thing that knocks sense into him, his children.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/27/2004 07:00 AM CST

it's ok. u can keep posted things about him. he doesn't go around the internet seeing what people write about him. maybe if he's really bored and has nothing at all to do so it's very unlikely that he'd see this, but his family on the other hand...

Posted by superunknown @ 07/27/2004 07:03 AM CST

yeah, you're right... But still, I insist... Have you ever tried to force him to listn to you? Or you're afraid of the consequences of it to your friendship with him? It's understandable... But yeah... Non of us can live his life for him... Remeber one of his musics "Can't change me"? No one can make him think what we want him to think, he has to see things from himself... Otherwise he will never believe it...

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/27/2004 07:12 AM CST

i have stood up to him many times before, believe me i voice my opinions but there's something uncomfortable about this situation, he needs to sort it out not me nor other friends or family. he's mother karen and brother peter and younger sister katy doesn't think too much of vicky. they must of said something, especially katy. he is a very 'my life, my rules' person which has it's good effects and bad effects.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/27/2004 07:17 AM CST

yep, that's true... At least he is not alone... He has got tons a people who cares... Lets just hope to see the ending of all this soon... :) Everything happens for a reason, maybe this is a test for his life...

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/27/2004 07:20 AM CST

some people are like 'i wish the best for chris and vicky no matter what bla bla bla,' if u want the best for chris, u wouldn't say that. look, u people should know from someone who actualy KNOWS the situation, this woman is a devil and those who wish them good luck are kiss-asses, stop the bullshit and realise the truth, it's not like chris is going to read it and think ooo, that's a nice person, what a nice thing to say - nuh-uh. WAKE UP PEOPLE!

Posted by superunknown @ 07/27/2004 07:21 AM CST

to the others, thankyou for acknowledging the truth.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/27/2004 07:23 AM CST

Look, I din't said it in that way... I really wish the best for him, and I've already understood that being with vicky, certainly it's not the best! I just said that because I really believe this mistake will bring something good, I'm not saying he should stay with her, no, nothing like that... Don't tell me that mistakes aren't important, 'cause they are... They make you realise lots of things and see life in other prespective... I'm not waiting for someone to think that I'm a good person, ok? It's just my opinion...

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/27/2004 07:29 AM CST

sunnyenergy you misunderstood, that reply wasn't aimed at you, i was talking about other gossipers, you got confused, darling.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/27/2004 07:31 AM CST

sorry hihi :P

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/27/2004 07:36 AM CST

just to check... Where could I see some photos of vicky? With all this, I'm really curious... I only saw one where she was with sunglasses... thanks**

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/27/2004 09:47 AM CST

#199150449-my ICQ nomber-looking for new friends to share information about chris cornell

Posted by lion @ 07/27/2004 10:08 AM CST

"I really don't know if I believe this whole issue about Vicky , I mean, I don't know if all of this things that said here are true,I'm really confused,there is a big posiblity that some people are lying here and making stories, I need some proofs,I really love chris with all my heart and I need to know only the truth about his life,I can't stand people who are lying about other people's life,I'm sorry if I hurt somebody's feelings but this is my opinion and PLEASE I need proofs. "
This sounds to me like I am being called a liar and I don't like it. You could have voiced your opinions and doubts wihout attacking anyone. I don't think you would like to be called a liar, would you? Maybe you didn't realize you were being unkind. Let's hope so.
There aren't many photos of her around without her sunglasses. There's a couple of her at a party that Nick gave a while ago and there's the footage of her wedding to Chris on a Greek website. I don't remeber what it's called put I'll try to find out. It's all in Greek though. As I said she's really not famouse or anything like that. Her claim to fame was through Nick and now, of course, Chris.
I wasn't trying to find out why Chris stays with her, I hope I didn't give you the wrong impression, I was voicing my thoughts aloud, I really don't care about his motives, no offense, but that's his business. I don't "know" him and it would be awkward to know about someone's personal stuff without really knowing them. Vicky on the other hand I know far too well. Lucky me!!!
I think, superunknown, that you are right, if he doens't like like to be confronted the it's a waste of time to attempt to speak to him. You might actually end up having an argument, and what would be the benefit in arguing?
Also, I had a question for you, who is Denise? Vicky has made really derrogatory remarks about her but I don't really know who she is. She's probably very nice and smart since Vicky doesn't like her. Do you know her? Does anybody know her? I'm just wondering.

Posted by Morgan @ 07/27/2004 01:58 PM CST

i got yer 'proofs' right here...

Posted by me @ 07/27/2004 02:45 PM CST

Morgan I really didn't ment to hurt your feelings and I didn't ment to call you a liar,and I think you were right when you said that I didn't realize I was being unkind,it's just my English is bad and maybe because of that I didn't expressed myself without hurting you,I'm really really sorry from the buttom of my heart,I feel bad now and I deserve it.

Posted by Lucy @ 07/27/2004 02:54 PM CST

No you don't deserve it!, superunknown is right, I am frustrated, and I think I took what you said too personally. You have every right to doubt everything I say, you don't know me at all! So I could be lying, everybody could be lying!
So don't apologize and actually I am sorry I lashed out at you the way I did.
This is the reason why I am so touchy about this whole thing: Vicky's ex was going to marry a friend of mine. Please don't ask me for names, I'm sorry I know this is frustrating, but I can't say who these people are. I hope you all can understand this. Anyway, they were going to get married. This was about two years ago. Everything is going great until Vicky decides she likes him too and well..., do the math. This girl he left, was devastated, she really loved him, to this day she is still hurting.
KC, this is why I spoke of Karma. This guy, Vicky's ex, was played too. Vicky didn't even bother to dump him, he found out about her engagement to Chris because he read it somewhere. And then, surprise, surprise, she's pregnant, so of course he would think the baby could be his and not Chris'.
Vicky has done stuff like this too many times. It's like she doesn't realize that she isn't playing with objects but with people. People get hurt, very hurt and she doesn't seem to care.
I just want to say that I don't work for a magazine or anything like that, I'm not getting paid by anyone to post these things and nobody put me up to this. I am doing this because I think she's a very nasty person and I am hoping someone stops her before she hurts more people.

Posted by Morgan @ 07/27/2004 03:18 PM CST

Do you know what the worst part of this whole thing is? The girl whose boyfriend Vicky stole was supposedly one of her best friends!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/27/2004 03:25 PM CST

It's not the first time someone says something without the intention to offend (lets hope), but ends up hurting someone... Lets all be more kind with eachothers, ok? I just say this because some answers are too hard... There's no need for that... Now, don't fall over me now, ok? :P PEACE :)

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/27/2004 03:31 PM CST

Best friend... Ouch.. I guess they are not friends anymore.... :P

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/27/2004 03:36 PM CST

I'm so glad we get along now,next time I will think before I say something.thanks:)

Posted by lucy @ 07/27/2004 03:37 PM CST

Who is Denise? Does anyone know?

Posted by Morgan @ 07/28/2004 12:06 AM CST

In case you are wondering why I ask. Vicky has a deep resentment for this Denise and I wonder if she is a good friend of Chris. I hope it isn't you, superunknown! Whoever she is she must be very pretty and very nice for Vicky to dislike her so much.
And no, sunnyenergy, they are definitely not friends anymore!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/28/2004 01:45 AM CST

morgan, i dunno who denise is, vicky must be really jealous of her because she's smart or funny or whatever. i hear that vicky has a tendency of hating attractive woman, or any woman chris knows because she thinks chris will fall for them. chris told me about 4 months ago that vicky asked him if we ever had a relationship, is she fucking serious? chris started dating susan a little while after i met him, he did however tell her that we had kissed once, what the fuck is wrong with him? it's like he lost some brain cells after meeting her. u don't tell current partners that! it's not a big deal, chris wasn't with susan and i had ended my relationship a long time before we did that, big whoop we kissed, vicky should grow up. it's not like i did it for fame or anything, chris wasn't even famous then! she was probably not even born then, lol.

she stole her best friends boyfriend, hahaha, man, she's such a tramp!

morgan, don't let this lousy motherfucker get to u, she's not worth it. was there wedding on greek news? hahaha.

morgan, are you from france? why does vicky and her family, i assume they live there, if they're proud greeks?

Posted by superunknown @ 07/28/2004 01:47 AM CST

Morgan: Thanks for the fone number and her address, that's funny. How about going one step further by posted her valid e-mail address, if she has one. I would think she has one or is she internet illiterate or something? LOL.

Posted by jin @ 07/28/2004 01:51 AM CST

Well, if Vicky is that possessive and jealous maybe it's because she knows her plan won't succeed with Chris being in contact with other woman... In such a criticized relation like this one, with whom to they hang out? Or they live for themselfs? Based on what you said, Chris isn't forgetting his old friends, is he? (superknown)

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/28/2004 08:11 AM CST

If you really knew Chris, you'd know that Denise is Tom Morello's girlfriend. Stop posting bullshit already! Lucy I guess you're right after all, some people are making up stories. Please..., I already said this give me f... break!

Posted by me @ 07/28/2004 10:14 AM CST

Because I was so unfairly harsh to Lucy I am going to try and be very polite.
I never said I'm friends with Chris, read my posts, I said I have seen and maybe spoken to him, very shortly, three times. Prove we are lying, please? (I'm smilling politely as I right this!) :)
I have never met the members of Audioslave. I've seen them but haven't been introduced. I saw them last year at the after-party for them following their concert at the Olympia, in Paris. That's where supposedly Vicky and Chris "met". She arrenged the whole thing, we all know this. She's told this even to Chris and I heard her. The party was thrown by Nikos, her brother. How convenient for her to have such brother.
I did not know that Tom's girlfriend was named Denise. I've never seen her. Why should I? Tom is not my friend.
Why the hell would Vicky hate Tom's girlfriend? That just makes no sense at all. Vicky must be really loosing her mind.
Superunknow, I am from France, sort of, I'm half French. The other half is from the good ol' US of A. Vicky is not French, she ended up there, working with Nikos, who was there first, after some scandal in school. I'm telling you this girl has been busy for a long time. Her family covered the whole thing up and sent her to Paris to work with Nikos, who by the way isn't any better than her. (This last bit was catty but it's true.) The whole Ivy League thing, Chris should ask Vicky to show him her graduation diploma, snort, snort. Nick is the one with the big college background. She wnet to college but... Ivy League my ass! Stupid cow takes credit for what her brother has accomplished. Her father set her up in France with her brother. Vicky has never had to do anything on her own. Her family has alwys supported her, even her posh "apartment" wasn't hers. I don't see anything wrong with being helped by your family, that's great. If your parents can help, why not? What bothers me, is Vicky taking credit for what other people do for her and never even thanking them for it?
Her e-mail in France is not working, the messages keep bouncing back. And the work one, hers not Nikos, is "frozen" also. She's not working anymore. I wonder what happened to her long list of clients. Everybody says she is sooo accomplished but I guess she's left her clients hanging. Curiously though, Nick is still working!!!
By the way, Vicky is NOT in her lower twenties, I have never seen her birth certificate or some other ID, but I know she is over twenty five!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/28/2004 10:50 AM CST

lol That's funny that Vicky hates Toms girlfriend. Think about it, if Tom likely wouldn't put up with Vicky for more than a couple minutes, any woman he's with is likely to be just as smart!!

Posted by SG Gal @ 07/28/2004 12:52 PM CST

I see your point, and yes, it's pretty funny... Still, Icky Vicky is slowly loosing all her marbles. If she keeps going at this rate she'll run out of people to hate, she'll end up hating her own ass!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/28/2004 06:47 PM CST

me, i only met tom once, i don't know anything about his love life or who his girlfriend is, what's her name, etc so gimme a fucking break! do u think i wanna know every fucking detail of everyone (like vicky)? i met the guy once, so get off my case.

morgan, ur half french half american i see. looks like vicky has ruined her reputation even more than it was originally. i think she's narcassistic and prob. keep on loving herself even if a few lessons are tought to her. some people just can't change.

oh and me, i haven't seen tom's girlfriend before either, I'm not from L.A, i visit there but i'm not from there and that's where the audioslave boys are based. it's not hard to figure out which city i'm from, as i said, i met chris back in 84 in his apartment, now where is he from again? once again, gimme a fucking break and get the facts straight!

Posted by superunknown @ 07/28/2004 11:33 PM CST

I am glad that Chris is having another kid. Good for him. I want a kid some day. I say, "Congratulations!" As far as his love-life is concerned, unless he sings about it I pretty much don't care. Even if he does sing about it, I will interpret it in my own way and it's my own business. One of my favorite quotes of his is, "I have absolutely no objectivity about anything I do, ever." I paraphrased, but the idea is there. The man is a musical genius and will always be someone I look up to in that field. I was just internet scouring for an audioslave update about the new cd and stumbled across all this nonsense about his private life. Isn't it his music that we dearly love? Well, that's the only part of him we get to have. Cherish it, don't take it for granted and then dig for more. Just my advice, I'm not intending for offending. Carry on.

Posted by mysterywhytegirl @ 07/28/2004 11:52 PM CST

mysterywhytegirl, chris is changing and who knows, one day you'll notice that he definately isn't the samne anymore by this i am meaning his music too.

oh, an i love jeff buckley. i'm assuming that's what your nickname is about.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/28/2004 11:59 PM CST

mysterywhytegirl, chris is changing and who knows, one day you'll notice that he definately isn't the samne anymore by this i am meaning his music too.

oh, and i love jeff buckley. i'm assuming that's what your nickname is about.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/28/2004 11:59 PM CST

sorry about the double post.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/29/2004 12:01 AM CST

Personally, I don't 'dearly love' anybody's music, I like some stuff out there but I don't 'dearly' love it. Am not a fan of SG, or Audioslave or Cornell by himself. I know he is talented and has made music history, nobody is questioning the man's musical abilities, but I don't 'dearly' love him either.
ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS NOT ABOUT CHRIS IT'S ABOUT VICKY!!!!!!!!!!!!
As fas as Chris having another kid... well, we all hope it's his. Am not being sarcastic here!!! None of us is. We all wish him well!
I am curious about one thing you said; if all of this is 'nonsense' as you said why read it ALL OF IT and bother to post a comment? The people who post here are sharing their opinions and thoughts and none of us appreciates having them called nonsense, so don't bother with us again and hope you find another forum more deserving of your attention.
Dearly beloved that's all!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/29/2004 12:34 AM CST

you're funny

Posted by me @ 07/29/2004 12:50 AM CST

If you are refering to me, then, bless you heart , thank you! What can I say?...
It's a gift!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/29/2004 01:01 AM CST

This question is for you, superunknown, you said his music might change...
Vicky' s influenced her prior boyfriend a lot, she basically led him by the nose, he wasn't an actor/model until she started to push him in that direction. (He was is a lot younger than Chris though, Chris is 40 right? I read it here) Her ex- is barely 30. My question is: you said Vicky has Chris on a leash, and I know what that means, everybody don't get mad about this, it happens, women can manipulate a man that really loves them. And as women we all know this. We might not do it but we know we can!
Anyway, this is my question, do you think Chris could be influenced enough by her to leave Audioslave?
She said once, before anyone knew they were together, which is probably why nobody really paid attention to her comment, that she thought he did better by himself and that his talent was being compromised by the rest of the band, because they are not as good as Cornell. I was reading yesterday that Tom has another band, Citizen A, (if I am wrong please correct me), that he is working on and that just got me thinking and I remebered Vicky's comment and kind of froze. I read about it and went oh... oh... She' doing it again...
What say you about this?

Posted by Morgan @ 07/29/2004 01:09 PM CST

why didn't anybody ask superunknown if fris is a good kisser? is it because nobody believes her story?

Posted by me @ 07/29/2004 03:29 PM CST

no, because that's really superficial... Sorry, but that's one of theose questions that really don't have nothing to do with what we are discussing here... Still, it's ok to be curious, but don't expect a answer... Maybe no one asks that, because we respect superknown... :)

Posted by sunnnyenergy @ 07/29/2004 04:39 PM CST

just curious. fris has a good looking mouth, i was curious if he knows how to use it. that' s all

Posted by me @ 07/29/2004 07:20 PM CST

lol, some of you guys know what ur talking about and some don't.

morgan, that is such a tough question. no. i don't think chris will leave audioslave because of her influence. she has a VERY powerful influence but not enough to seperate him from the boys. they're intelligent guys, people chris like being around. vicky might want him to leave the band but surely, he won't. Tom does have a side-band called axis of justice which is also made up with serj tankian from system of a down. u better rush vicky to a toilet coz alot of shit is coming outta her mouth.

sunnyenergy, thankyou for your respect, i have respect for you too and i think that question me asked me is a little childish. that was 20 years ago and for a curious cat like you me, yes, he knows how to use his mouth (man, i felt so school-girly answering that question).

Posted by superunknown @ 07/29/2004 09:26 PM CST

me, and for you asking if no one believes me, u are the actual person that doesn't believe me but then again, y do i care? believe what ever the hell u want.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/29/2004 09:29 PM CST

you know 'fris'? really? if you say so...

Posted by me @ 07/29/2004 11:24 PM CST

Goes to show how little I know about Chris' side of things. I've heard of SG, who hasn't but of the rest I really don't know much. When I saw the guys from Audioslave the first time I hadn't a clue to who they were. NO picking on the ignorant girl!!!
The little I know of the rest of the band I've picked up from listening to Vicky, but I've come to the realization that the girl doesn't know the meaning of truth let alone how to speak it!
After reading your post, superunknown, I went back and got my information straightened out. By the way, thanks for being so forthcoming.
About the school-girly thing, no big deal, I wasn't exactly mature when I posted Vicky's address fifty times....
I'd rather be girly once in a while than bitter and hostile like some people who like to antagonize others for the hell of it. Big hint!!!
Even if, and I emphasize the word IF, superunknown is lying, who gives a shit? It won't change a damn thing. It sure as hell isn't keeping me from sleeping at night, and I don't believe its keeping your ass awake either. If it is... get a freaking job, you've got way too much free time on your hands.
Whatever the case, 'me' give it a rest and move the fuck on.
I ain't so funny no more, ain't I?

Posted by Morgan @ 07/30/2004 01:26 AM CST

lol. i think ur funny morgan. yeah 'me' can think what she wants, i don't give a shit, do i sound like i do?

morgan, bless u on how u don't know about music much but it looks like u know just about enough. when i talk to U morgan, i can assure u that i am not lying about anything i've said, what would making stuff up achieve? i'm not a loser (like ms. karayiannis) i know u believe me and that's cool.

morgan, it's alright that u put up vicky's details coz the ltters and calls will go rolling in :)

Posted by superunknown @ 07/30/2004 02:30 AM CST

Honestly, superunknown, I don't believe for a second that you are lying. The thought never crossed my mind, why should it? You haven't given me or anyone else any reason to doubt you.
She has two more phone numbers if I get them, who knows what I'll do with such information. The possibilities are endless... The mind boggles...Just kidding!
Well...
You know she told a bunch of people that I wasn't 'chic' enough for her to bother hanging out with me. Because I'm not familiar with the whole 'LA/Rick Rubin/Sunset Strip rockstar music scene' I make her look like a looser. She actually tried to embarass me in public and she chose a cafe in the middle of Paris of all places. Most people in Paris don't have clue about the LA scene. American bands aren't as popular in Europe as they are here. I haven't been back here for a while so I sorta lost touch with things. I mostly listen to british bands. But she tried to use that against me in front of a bunch of people who listen to the same stuff I do. She dropped names and asked me if I knew who they were and I had to say that most of the people she mentioned I'd never heard of before. And then she laughed and told her friends " that I'm not like them".
She wanted to come across as very shishi and jet set while making me look bad but ended up looking like a perfect jackass herself. So much for name dropping. She picked the wrong crowd and her horseshit backfired against her. She actually stormed off totally pissed off and left us, laughing our asses off, to pick up her tab. It was worth it though, seeing the look on her face was definitely worth it, none of us minded paying her bill.
But since I'm not cool enough at the after-party following the concert at the Olympia, I wasn't introduced to the band because my 'not being with it', whatever that is, was going to make her look bad. So I was kept at a 'safe' distance. Which suited me fine since I could see everything without being bothered. I saw her leave with Chris. There were no vans. Miss Karayiannis wasted no time on that one. At the party I heared the name Citizen mentioned and that's why I got the names confused, I switched bands.
But I have made ammends, I know who's who, sort of... I'm working on it :)

Posted by Morgan @ 07/30/2004 03:36 AM CST

morgan, i had no idea she was that bad. make her look like a loser? she is a loser to start with! u need good friends and not sluts like her, has anyone of her 'friends' told her to shut the fuck up yet? i'm waiting for the perfect opportunity to get her. i was over at susan's the other week and lily was there. when she went to her bedroom to get a doll, susan told me that lily personally called chris and asked if he could come and spend the day with her. he said yes to start out with but later susan got a call from him saying 'vicky and i had somethingplanned and cannot cancel it, tell lily i'm sorry and i'll come and see her soon'. susan covered up her anger and said ok. lily was so sad afterwords, she really wanted to be with her daddy. thaks to the bitch, she couldn't. i think vicky just made it up, SHE EVEN JEALOUS OF HIS DAUGHTER! that's pretty low.

seeing lily's little face and how much she just wants to 'hug daddy' can bring a tear ur eye. thankfully, susan is a strong, independant woman and can cheer her up easily.

getting back to the point, u don't need her morgan, if u really ant to meet the guys, u can come and see them via me.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/30/2004 03:50 AM CST

i meant 'want' to meet the guys, not ant, lol.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/30/2004 03:52 AM CST

Aaargh, I am so angry you have no idea. I read your post and if I had her in front of me I'd punch her right on her collagened mouth. That'll keep her lips full and plump looking!!!
I am going to tell you something I promised I'd never repeat, but I don't care anymore. All of those who heard her made a pact never to repeat it out of respect for Lily and her mother, but enough is enough!
Vicky calls Lily the Pipette brat (pipette as in the long glass tube that looks like a thin baster, that is used in labs). She said after she met Lily, that the child is too shy and introverted to be mentally normal. She also added that Lily is physically underdeveloped and has some sort of physical impairment, (even if this were true, what difference does it make?)probably because she was left inside the Pietri dish too long and her brain cellls got damaged. Sweet isn't it, makes you feel warm and tingly all over!!!
Her son on the other hand is going to be normal and strong, because it was a natural conception. This is ironic because for the longest time she claimed she didn't have to worry about birth control since Chris has low sperm count due to his drinking and drug abuse. Suddenly, miracously, she gets pregnant late last year, Chris gets divorced early this year and now they are married and awaiting the birth of their 'natural' son.
Enough is enough, I know that Vicky dislikes everybody but Lily is four years old, this is just too much! Chris needs to know, it's unfair that he remains unaware.
On a lighter note; thanks for the offer but as I said I'm not a fan of AS so I don't really want to meet them. I think I'll get the CD and maybe I'll change my mind. NO, I don't have their CD. NO PICKING ON ME, I said!!!
I'd rather meet the people who post here. Besides remember, I'm not cool enough to hang with 'important' people. I don't go around dropping names of famous people and making sure that EVERYBODY knows that I wear designer clothing. And frankly I wouldn't have it any other way.
Ironically Vicky and I met some time ago on the street and she tried to make conversation and offered to have a cup of coffe but I told her having coffee with me would make her look bad and I wanted to safeguard her reputation! needless to say I left!
She's got no one left, except for Chris and her mother. She even fought with Nikos, (he hates being called that which is why everybody calls him Nikos, see? we are all very mature!) Her friends started distancing from her after she got pregnant, Vicky hasn't been in Paris for a while now. There's nothing for her there, as of now. She wants to buy a house ther with Chris and move their with their child.
Honestly, I'd rather be me than someone 'important', if being important means being like her. She's a grown woman picking on a small child, seriously if I ever turn that nasty, you have got my permission to go ahead and shoot me! Put me out of my misery!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/30/2004 01:25 PM CST

I forgot to mention about the car thing. The Corvette is not Vicky's, it's Chris'. She said so herself. Miss Karayiannis likes Mercedes Benz, see... she is used to them. It' a family thing starting with Nikos. He's is a black sedan. So probably she'll get one too and if I'm not totally mistaken about her, it'll be a red convertible with a personlized license plate that says something like 'Victoire' or some other idiotic thing. A friend of mine (hi Nina!!!) calls her Victor, because she says Vicky looks like Nick only with long hair and red toe nails.

Posted by Morgan @ 07/30/2004 04:10 PM CST

Im Vicky's brother. First off, my name is not Nikos nor has it ever been. Its Nicholas. So fuck you! You dont know me. Second, I dont need a fuckn pseudonym to speak to you lifeless pricks. If you are so real say who you are to all Chris's fans and dont hide like a bunch of fuckn high school kids. I think Chris' fans want to know about the music and not log on to a gossip column. By the way for the real fans the album is almost done and its fuckn ill. Last time you'll hear from me. Unfortunately I have a life you fuckn losers. Get your own! By the way AUDIOSLAVE ROCKS.

Posted by Nick Blast @ 07/30/2004 07:01 PM CST

Before you post again, Nikos, pardonez moi, I mean Nicholas, do you research a little better, OK? Just a friendly suggestion. Why do you need to know who we are, after all, as you said, we are lifeless pricks, who cares about us? By the way, thank you for taking time out of the life you so obviously have to post on our uninteresting little gossip column. We are most grateful to you Mr. Blast
I think, ladies, that people are beginning to be uncomfortable!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/30/2004 08:25 PM CST

01-47-20-59-97
01-47-20-61-14
01-47-23-63-28

A promise is a promise!!!

Posted by Moi again @ 07/30/2004 08:34 PM CST

hahaha, HI NIKOS, what's up NIKOS?! how's ur ho of a sister NIKOS!? lol. people like u crack me up.

moving on. morgan, i got so mad reading that! how dare she? lily's a beautiful little girl, frankly, I think she's jealous because lily is chris' heart and soul. and being jealous of a 4 yr old, sad... it's lucky susan doesn't read this, she'd probably go and kill vicky; i'm not joking. atleast chris and beautiful have a beautiful daughter, her son is going to be the ugliest motherfucker, no offence but it's true. let's just hope he inherits chris' looks. i can't believe she talks about an innocent child like that. lily is quiet and to-herself, wouldn't u b if u were around that skank?

Posted by superunknown @ 07/30/2004 10:58 PM CST

that bitch is going down. i can't tell u what i'll do the next time i see her.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/30/2004 10:59 PM CST

soz, i meant chris and susan have a beautiful daughter. i got carried away with using beautiful but lily really is.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/30/2004 11:00 PM CST

Does Lily take after Chris? y'know, with the beautiful blue-green eyes and dark curly hair? Just curious, as everyone says she's lovely!!

Posted by SG Gal @ 07/30/2004 11:20 PM CST

Oh, and here's Chris' mom's guestbook if you think she might tell Chris?? http://www.angelwood.com/data/guestbook.html

Posted by SG Gal @ 07/30/2004 11:22 PM CST

I read somewhere once that he listens to his mom....

Posted by SG Gal @ 07/30/2004 11:25 PM CST

I think it's odd that you sister is being called a ho, and accused of trying to pass her unborn child as Cornell's when it's someone else's, etc...etc..etc.. I mean Vicky isn't portraid as an angel here but this Nikos, oh gee... here I go again, excuse me, I meant Nicholas, is only bothered by the name thing. I've given out her phone number, the color of the car HE drives, things she says and does but what bugs this bozo is to be called Nikos?
Maybe I'm old fashioned but if someone called my sister a ho on the internet for everybody to read about it ( even if it was true) I'd come up with something a little more forcefull than 'AUDIOSLAVE ROCKS', but that's just me!
By the way; Nick Blast ... nice to meet you I'm Morgan Kaboom!!!

Posted by Morgan Kaboom @ 07/30/2004 11:26 PM CST

lol. ur funny. look, it's not even him, just some fan. do u really think if he is such a busy boy that he would have time to search the internet for stuff?

SG Gal, lily is a mix of chris and susan. she has beautiful green eyes and chocolate curly/wavey hair. she has a very cute smile and is a quiet little pixie. chris and susan are very proud of her.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/30/2004 11:50 PM CST

She sounds utterly adorable!! I have to say that if Vicky has set out to part Chris and his daugher, then she is a horrible, horrible evil woman and I hope she gets it returned to her threefold!! (It's a wiccan thing)

Posted by SG Gal @ 07/31/2004 12:01 AM CST

Three is a very powerful number. It's the perfect circle, there' a reason why I chose 'Morgan', it comes from Moorigan, the three in one. I am a firm believer that whatever you send out, you will receive back, like a boomerang. Good or evil. Call it Karma, or Wiccan wisdom or destiny or even what my grandmother calls the evil eye. You reap what you sow. This woman is bad, really bad, I don't know how far she is willing to go.
Thanks for the link to Chris' mother's guestbook. I don't know how I would approach the subject though. Would she even believe me, after all I'm not her son's friend. I don't want to offend her or make her angry. Any suggestions?
Superunknown, Lily sounds beautiful, I've never seen her, and I've never seen Susan either but Lily sounds really lovely.
I don't think I'd feel comfortable with my daughter having contact with Vicky. Is there any way to get Susan to to read what is being posted here? I think she needs to know what's going on so she can protect her child from a toxic situation.
Now I really feel awful about this whole thing!
Shit... this really sucks!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/31/2004 01:28 AM CST

i believe too that vicky will get what's coming to her.

morgan, if u want, u can post all ur info on karen's website (chris' mom). karen does despise vicky and wouldn't be scared to confront her. she would be especially mad hearing that she bags her granddaughter, so, go ahead but post anonymously.

lily is a beautiful girl with such a great heart. she doesn't want anyone to hate her. vicky's such a cunt, lily's only an innocent little girl, how could she be so heartless? if i told chris what she says about her, he wouldn't have any second thoughts, he'd walk out on vicky. how to tell him is the tricky part.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/31/2004 01:51 AM CST

I see what you mean. It won't be easy to find a way to tell him what's going on. I haven't a clue as to how I would tell him if I were you! That's why I thought of letting Susan know instead, but that's probably just as difficult.

Posted by Morgan @ 07/31/2004 02:46 AM CST

The only thing I can really think of is to maybe post a link to our discussion here, then Karen can read for herself what we've all been struggling with.... I can't really think of any other way to say it all!!

Posted by SG Gal @ 07/31/2004 06:06 AM CST

yes. it's a very hard situation, it's like some soap-show, karen will just need to read this and things will probably unravel.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/31/2004 06:11 AM CST

i don't want to ruin my friendship with susan and chris either, or their families, it's just so risky.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/31/2004 06:15 AM CST

Hi Morgan. Why don't you just put this post adress on Chris's mother guestbook? Just that... If we are talking about something here, we can't expect it to be a secret.. This is public... So, we can't feel like we are doing something wrong... If we are worried, let's just do what we can... :)

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/31/2004 06:50 AM CST

why do you think it's risky superunknown?You afraid they won't believe you?

Posted by --- @ 07/31/2004 07:01 AM CST

chris might not believe me. susan would but it's hard to tell them what is being said, i mean, would u like hear all the shit someones saying about u? if i told chris, he might think i'm making it up, he'd think his family put me up to it to confront him and make him leave vicky. chris only believes what he wants to believe, he has always been the nicest guy but that's he's main flaw.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/31/2004 07:30 AM CST

I understand you, and if you really want to help, you will try to find the best way to tell them that.

Posted by --- @ 07/31/2004 08:06 AM CST

glad u can relate. hmm, u seem very mysterious ---, i dunno. i love these people alot but it's such a hard thing to do.

Posted by superunknown @ 07/31/2004 08:17 AM CST

You guys are right, but as Superunknown says, this is not an easy thing to do. People are going to get hurt, and I don't feel comfortable being the bearer of such bad news but... I guess if it was me or my child that was involved I
d want someone to tell me, even if it cause me pain!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/31/2004 12:50 PM CST

One final thought Superunkown., they are bound to recognize you from your posts here, especially the kiss 20 years ago. I just want to make sure this is alright with you and that it won't cause an argument between you and these people. Let me know.

Posted by Morgan @ 07/31/2004 01:07 PM CST

don't go posting anything anywhere else. leave fris' mom alone. don't mess with people like that, if Vicky is the bitch u all say she is, dude's gonna to figure it out soon. leave it the fuck alone, there's kids involved.
just my humble opinion

Posted by me @ 07/31/2004 02:27 PM CST

By the time he figures it out things may have gotten a lot worse!! Posting a link just lets Karen know what's being said. She seems like an intelligent woman who can figure things out for herself from there....
Just my humble opinion.

Posted by SG Gal @ 07/31/2004 03:38 PM CST

Look, I personally think that Morgan and Superunknown are on the up and up here. But for those who don't, don't you think Chris' own mom would be able to figure out if there weren't?? Seriously, give teh lady some credit!!

Posted by SG Gal @ 07/31/2004 04:16 PM CST

....sorry for the misspellings

Posted by SG Gal @ 07/31/2004 04:17 PM CST

Lets leave this to the ones who really know the involved persons... We all want the best, just that... Maybe this is not the better way to help, but we don't have many options, do we? Inicially when I was reading all the posts, I had the feeling that we were making the huge mistake of getting involved with an issue that had nothing to do with us, but now, knowing what we know, and believing (like I do) that all of this is true, it's hard to accept and see someone we "know" and admire being used... Yeah, maybe we shouldn't try to interfere and let things flow, but this is something bigger than us, famous people may not want to acept that label, but things are what they are... When you open the door once, you can't just close and expect things to be the way they were... And if we are all wrong about Vicky, the truth will come up, sooner or later... We are not messing with other people's life, not when you are trying to do something positive... Morgan and superknown, I admire you, because you are in such a difficult position and you're mantaining the integrity of all this Cornell/Vicky thing... It could be esaier just to shoot things and let this take it's course, but being on top of the issue it's a way to controll the stories... :) I want with this, try to make this more clear and objectif, hope I did that...

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/31/2004 04:35 PM CST

That's true sunnyenergy, we are trying to do something positive, so I don't feel like it's messing with anyone. My opinion is that Karen should know what's been said because it's her son, and since she knows all the involved persons she will know best. However, I haven't posted the link myself because I feel Morgan and superunknown are already in difficult enough positions and it should be their decision I think.

Posted by SG Gal @ 07/31/2004 05:11 PM CST

yep, that's true... Well, they have our support :)

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 07/31/2004 05:16 PM CST

not telling people what to do here but this shit is scary. im starting to believe it too and this stuff is heavy shit. serious heavy shit. what if cornell gets really pissed instead of believing this stuff and his mom freaks out? i just think he should be told in person and leave his mom out of it or tell susan, u know her tell her to read this shit, why bring karen into this

Posted by me @ 07/31/2004 06:35 PM CST

The mother needs to get involved. It's her grandbaby that is suffering.

Posted by Santo Cielo @ 07/31/2004 07:20 PM CST

Hello everyone, I read what you all said and all of you raise valid arguments, all of you. It's good to have all these different points of view. One thing is certain Chris Cornell is very much loved by his fans, he' s a lucky person. But guys, try putting yourselves in my place, this is very difficult for me. First I can't talk to Susan because I don't know her, I can't talk to Chris because I don't really know him either, I can't just call him up and say "hi, remeber me, we met in Paris, lovely city isn't it?, oh..., by the way your wife is a ho and she might not be carrying your baby, Have a nice day!!!".
Posting at his mom's site makes me feel disrespectful towards her and her family. I don't know this woman, and I'm posting to tell her her daughter-in-law is a whore. What if she thinks I'm some lunatic, I don't want to upset her. At the same time, it's her grandbaby that's caught in the middle. The worse part, is that in a way it's almost too late, Vicky got Chris to marry her and knowing her she's got him by the b... legally. I doubt she signed a pre-nup, even if he asked. But if nothing is said, she'll just keep doing whatever she wants. Even if the baby is Chris', I know and I'm not the only one, that she was cheating on him, and if she's done it once she might do it again. I'm not the only one who knows about her, why I'm I the only one with the balls to say something? I'm not referring to you superunknown, I'm talking about the idiots back at home. YES, I SAID IDIOTS, you bunch of spineless pieces of chicken s...!!!
She needs to be confronted, maybe, if we all speak up, she'll learn her lesson and stop using people.
See, what I mean?, there are too many sides to this situation. It's not easy to just barge into someone's life and tell them something you know will hurt them, but...
Give me an answer, superunknown, I won't do anything if you are not o.k. with them knowing who you are. I don't want to get you stuck in this mess too.

Posted by Morgan @ 07/31/2004 07:51 PM CST

Santo Cielo, thank you from the bottom of my heart! You have the balls I don't!!! I tried to post but it requires an e-mail address and just can't give the one I'm at. You have my deepest and humblest respects!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/31/2004 09:39 PM CST

Just in case you were wondering, if I let eveyone know who I am I would get fired. Getting a job in Paris is not that easy!
I wish I could have done better!

Posted by Morgan @ 07/31/2004 09:43 PM CST

superunknown doesn't know Chris or anybody else. Go to Karen website and look at her post and the date. She makes crap up. Very sad

Posted by --- @ 08/01/2004 01:51 AM CST

What the fuck are you talking about ---? on karen's website it has some e-mail address with superunknown in it, who cares? it's obviously a fan, haven't u heard of that soundgarden album? that isn't my post, have u seen how many people on the internet have that e-mail? that's were i put 2 and 2 together and called myself that. i make up crap? u don't even know me so fuck off. there are billions of soundgarden fans out there, type superunknown into a search engine and i assure u thousands of people come up.

next time ---, get ur facts staight before posting, for fucks sake.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/01/2004 04:18 AM CST

morgan, i don't think it's such a good idea to post this website after all. it's true, chris is gonna have it hard but it's his life, let's let him take control but on the otherhand, karen really, really doesn't like vicky. she knows something is going on but doesn't ask, i think she asked chris but he dodged the subject. karen can be a real hardass if she wants.

the true injustice is the talking of little lily. it's not fair, she didn't do anything for her step-mommy to say these harsh things about her, that is truely heartless. lily is such a kind soul. i have a baby boy and when we go over, she treats him like a little brother, cuddling him, feeding him (trying to) and i have a girl her age to that she respects and plays with. she's a great child!

i am getting sick of the people who think we (morgan and i) are making up stuff. that's shit, y the hell would i make stuff up for, what's than gonna gain? bottom line, if u don't believe us, fuck off, if u do believe us, ur a human being.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/01/2004 04:29 AM CST

oh and yes, i am a mommy.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/01/2004 04:30 AM CST

oh shit. someone posted it on her site. too late.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/01/2004 04:36 AM CST

hope Karen will read these posts and do something, do you think she believe all this?

Posted by lucy @ 08/01/2004 07:07 AM CST

sorry superunknown it wasn't me who posted this shit about you,I believe you,someone else used my mysterious name, get your own fucking name bitch.....

Posted by --- @ 08/01/2004 07:22 AM CST

I think that when she's going to read this, it will bother her a little bit,she won't talk with susan or chris about this but she'll watch Vicky's behavior,she will learn what kind of person Vicky is and than when she understand that Vicky is bad news for her family,I think she will confront her.

Posted by --- @ 08/01/2004 07:36 AM CST

I am really upset when I think about chris. I hope she doesnt hurt him. he seems like a very sincere person to his friends and fans. i do not know him but if this baby that vicky is carrying is his-he is not going anywhere at all. everyone says what a wonderful father he is. I don't see him leaving her unless she leaves him. If he really loves her I could see him staying with even if the child wasn't his. like I said I do not know him but he seems like such a good hearted person. I think the only reason he is not with susan is because she wanted to end it. Does anyone have pictures of her? i saw the ivy ones. i would love to see more recent ones.

Posted by laila @ 08/01/2004 07:38 AM CST

Karen does intuitive readings, maybe she already knows more than we think...

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 08/01/2004 08:55 AM CST

Laila, I don't have pics of her. And there aren't that many around. If you can take pictures of Adrianna Lima why bother with Vicky. She's not famous or anything like that, and she's not good to look at either. By the way, the parties with the models in them are thanks to Nick, he's the one with access to the world of 'high fashion', its his job.
I'm sorry if the post causes you problems, superunknown, I was waiting for you to say something before posting myself, and I promise you, I wouldn't have if you didn't agree. But at the same time, a huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders.
People cross your fingers and hope for the best. Positive energy is a very powerful thing!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/01/2004 01:37 PM CST

Supreunknown, I wasn't going to ask, and go ahead and tell me its none of my business if you want, but I am trying to sort things out and get my facts right. Does Chris' mom have a alcohol problem also? Vicky mentioned a Karen once and called her "another g..-damn drunk", am wondering if she was talking about the same person or if its a different Karen. My apologies to anybody who gets offended by this question. I'm not asking out of malice, I promise.

Posted by Morgan @ 08/01/2004 01:42 PM CST

Oh... and congratulations on being a MOM!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/01/2004 01:46 PM CST

I agree. Considering what she does for a living I don't think many people would be able to pull somthing past her. I think that when she reads what's here she'll be able to figure out what's best.

Posted by SG Gal @ 08/01/2004 01:47 PM CST

Didn't refresh the screen there. :) I was agreeing with sunnyenergy in case it wasn't clear!!

Posted by SG Gal @ 08/01/2004 01:53 PM CST

lol But I also agree with Morgan, congratulations from me as well superunknown!!

Posted by SG Gal @ 08/01/2004 01:54 PM CST

Hey... I going on holidays this month, so I won't post 'till september probably... I just wish you a good august, and I'll cross my fingers to see some good news about all of this Chris Cornell and vicky K. issue... Morgan and superknown ;)**** you can count wth my positive energy****

Posted by sunnyenergy @ 08/01/2004 10:21 PM CST

gosh, u guys r real sweet. thanku on the congradulations of me being a mom, lol.

morgan, karen's never had an alcohol problem. not that i know of anyway, maybe it's just something vicky made up, whatta bitch.

---, soz for lashing out on u, whoever posted using ur name is a unwelcome bitch.

thanku for ur postive energy sunnyenergy, hopefully, karen will unveil all.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/01/2004 10:59 PM CST

Hey, sunnyenergy, I'm not even going to ask where you are going because I have a feeling I'll be jealous and jealousy is wrong, but have a great time! Take care of yourself and be safe and did I mention; have a great time?
I'm going back to gay ol' Paris in a couple of weeks and I'll be back around the same time as you so 'See ya in September!
Boas ferias!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/01/2004 11:50 PM CST

Somebody told me today to describe something about Vicky that would make my knowing her more believable, especially if Chris' mother reads what has been posted here. It has to be something that Chris' mom can look for next time she sees Vicky. I've described her personality but Vicky can be very conniving and misleading so she could have everybody fooled. It's a big mistake to underestimate her! So it has to be about her physical appereance. She' s dark olive complected, about 5'4" tall, weighs about 120 lb. pre-pregnancy, has brown straight hair, and to be fair, her hair is gorgeous. My friend Nina, the one that calls her Victor, says Vicky has booger colored eyes, yes... I said booger, they're brown with some green in them, sometimes she looks cross-eyed, (Vicky not Nina). She has ugly hands, with stubby fingers, thick lips (big mouth), big nose, wide hips, whinny nasal voice, blah, blah, blah, I've said all of this before, so the only thing I could think of is body hair. Yes, ladies, BODY HAIR. Vicky has really dark and coarse, body hair, especially on the sides of her face, as in sideburns, down her neck and on her forearms. She used to get teased something awful, they used to call her monkey-girl on account of her 'fur'. So... she waxes all of it off. She actually brags about the salon she goes to get this done. It's a very chic salon in Paris with a year long waiting list. They are famous for their waxing technics including the Brazilian wax. Personally this isn't something I would go around telling people but...
Next time you see her Superunknown, look at her arms, I haven't seen her lately, but I bet you won't find a single hair on them! Same goes to Chris' mom, check her out for body hair!
I can't believe I just wrote this stuff but honestly I can't think of anything else. I've known this creature long enough to notice her body hair's process of elimination! Good grief!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/02/2004 01:56 AM CST

Superunknown, I'm sure more than one of us is asking herself this question and since you know him... WHY THE HELL DID HE FALL FOR HER?
do you know?

Posted by Morgan @ 08/02/2004 02:15 AM CST

morgan, i had the biggest laugh when i was reading ur post. haha, vicky the monkey, she's a woman with so much hair when chris for a guy hardly has any hair, he does wax some parts of his body but lol, i'm sure she'll beat him in a hair competition.

the first time i met her i noticed her eyebrows are a little fucked and she's got this ass looking lips. normally, i wouldn't give a shit if someone i met had this but since it's vicky, i'll make a exception.

i dunno why chris fell for vicky. he was dating someone else before her. i think he dating two woman before meeting vicky. honestly, susan is the best partner for him but things didn't work out. he said he likes vicky's 'velvet hair'. i was like ok. he probably fell for her superficial features, i don't think so for her personality.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/02/2004 03:39 AM CST

So he was with someone else! I thought he might be. Damn it, Vicky just can't keep her hands off another woman's man!
From what she has said herself he was very vulnerable when they met, she said he was weak from whatever was going on in his life at the time. The rehab was hard on him and the band wasn't doing as good as they thought it would on tour, so he was shaken and was physically tired. I'm sure he missed his daughter and he can't have been happy about his marriage not working out. I heard her talking about him and she said that any woman with have an ounce of imagination could trap him, because once he trusts you he'll do it almost blindly. She he is very insecure about himself as a man, whatever that means, and as long as you pretend to go along with him, in the end he does what you want. Vicky called him 'easy prey'.
She needs to get her ass whooped!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/02/2004 12:21 PM CST

People don't get me wrong here. I don't care what she looks like, physical appereances don't matter to me, but Vicky is such an awful person that its unavoidable to critize her. If she was nice, nobody would talk about what she looks like.

Besides, it wasn't me who nicknamed her 'Chitah'!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/02/2004 04:50 PM CST

This woman sounds like the missing link to Big Foot. The issue here is Chris being conned. Obviously she flipped him, rubbed him, turned him around--oh no!
Now he is stuck with this hairy beast and he is wondering what happened?

Posted by EH End @ 08/02/2004 08:18 PM CST

that's right. vicky dating chris when he was most vulnerable in his life. it's not fair, he's such a strong man, how could a woman just waltz into his life and do this? it's really not fair.

he didn't take rehab too well, that's for sure but it did help him. he missed out on the lat important months of susan's pregnancy. he was down about that so maybe that's why he wants to be around vicky so much. i dunno but yeah, he's had a rough time.

a while ago, when he was much younger he just wanted to have fun. he didn't want to be tied down by anyone or anyhing. he was a free-spirit and susan let him be, that's one reason why he loved her so much. vicky doesn't let him have freedom, if i was in his shoes, i'd slap myself silly and ask what the fuck i'm doing. i don't know what to do as a friend.

when i gave birth to my son in april, he came and saw me and he picked up the baby and u should of seen his face. he's such a sucker for children and vicky is carrying a child, i dunno whether it's his or not but she has a hold on his weak point.

i really dunno what to do. i'm his friend but it's so frustrating thinking how u can't help someone you love. this sux.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/02/2004 09:24 PM CST

and i couldn't stop laughing about the ape thing, gosh, u guys.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/02/2004 09:27 PM CST

You're just bitter because he left Susan your friend for a woman who's alot younger than she is. Many people have seen Vicky, and she's stunning to say the least, I don't think I've seen a pregnant woman look like that. I posted here a couple of months ago after seeing Chris with his wife and mother-in-law at a hotel in LA. Your friend should realize that Chris is gone, he's so in love everyone that sees them says that and I can vouch for that saw it with my own eyes hun. Susan should really move on and if you were a good friend to her you would help her do that rather than making her focus on Chris.I mean really how old is she now 47? I definitely feel for that that cant be easy but she should hurry up and get over him the clock is ticking. And really if you want people to believe you stop saying things they can prove wrong, I mean you had me going until this whole last bit now Im just sure that both of you are just jealous really jealous. Just out of curiosity superunknown- where are you from your English is really very poor ( his car; he's a man- see how that goes)? Just a little grammar lesson for today. I know, I know I'll fuck off too don't worry .

Posted by liz @ 08/03/2004 12:50 AM CST

I have to say this is breaking my heart - it hurts so much that there are people in this world so heartless, so soulless, that they would take that kind of love, loyalty and devotion and twist it and manipulate it like some personal toy to be abused and discarded. That's depraved and demented and the closest thing to true evil that I can think of in our world today - it's not done out of misguided belief, or insanity, but out of pure self-serving, controlling, manipulative intent. I would give anything to spare Chris the kind of pain that this means for him, because I know what kind of pain comes from being used by those that are so heartless. Damn I HATE this! Why do people have to hurt others so?! DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN.. Poor Chris.

Posted by KC @ 08/03/2004 12:50 AM CST

By the way, I'm back from vacation..
and apologies for the rant - reading all this at once really struck a nerve. *sigh*

Posted by KC @ 08/03/2004 12:53 AM CST

welcome back KC.

look liz, ur a mere fan. i KNOW chris and susan and their families. it's different from ur perspective, u don't know how it feels to be caught in the middle. sure, u can view it from the outside world but do u sit down and talk to chris? do u comfort chris? do u know them? no. susan isn't jealous liz, she's hurt for what chris did which broke up their marriage, u don't know what happened so don't comment.

have u spoken to vicky? no, u haven't so take ur on advise and fuck off. i don't have to proove myself to assholes like u so...

and liz, take my earlier advise, if u believe us, ur a human being, if u don't, fuck off - that simple.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/03/2004 01:12 AM CST

oh, and i don't bring up the subject of chris when i'm around susan, ok liz? also, i was friends with chris first before susan, we bacame friends when chris was going out with her which was a few months after i met him. believe what ever the hell u want, i'm still able to sleep at night.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/03/2004 01:17 AM CST

Look, it's not as bad as it sounds, the creature does WAX! You've seen her, she doesn't look like cousin It!!!
Maybe she should, maybe having her face covered by hair wouldn' be such a bad thing after all! OK, back to reality... Sigh!
EH End, I don't know Chris, so I can't say anything about him, but I know her and you are right on; she CONNED him. How? Hell, if I know. Superunknown knows him and even she doesn't really understand.
I remember an issue about a necklace. Vicky was having a total hysterical fit because Chris was wearing a necklace Susan gave him.
Vicky had given her ex a gold chain with a pendant in the shape of a name tag, with some nonesense etched on it, maybe it was her name or some horseshit like that.
I don't know what she said to Chris but she has her fit and some time later Chris is wearing a necklace that looks just like the one she's given her ex.
Guess who doesn't have a necklace like that anymore?
These are the kind of games she plays, she's hurt a lot of people doing shit like this. So, yes, she really is that awful. Vicky is a hippocrite and a cheat but there's so much anybody can do. You are his friend, superunknown, and it's obvious you care deeply for him but you can't fight his battles for him. He's a grown man. He's going to have to snap out of it on his own. And it's not like he would be leaving his children, even if he leaves Vicky, there's no reason why he shouldn't have a relationship with his son, (if it turns out to be his.) He really needs to get that test. I hope for the baby's sake that it turns out to be Chris'.
Hopefully his mother can help him. Being a healer she knows how to handle 'delicate' situations. I really hope she reads this forum and helps him somehow or at least tells Susan to keep Lily away from monkey girl!
There's really not much else anybody else can do, especially if he doesn't want to hear what people have to say to him. You can't force someone to believe you, they have to get there on their own.
But, you see? more and more people are reading what we have to say and eventually he will have to face facts!
Chitah is going down!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/03/2004 01:21 AM CST

Sorry, I didn't read liz' post before but... l
DEAR LIZ;
YOU MUST BE OUT OF YOUR MIND AND BLIND TO BOOT. VICKY IS NOT BEATIFUL. ARE YOU NUTS???
I DON'T KNOW WHAT LAST BIT YOU ARE REFERRING TO BUT LEARN HOW TO READ! NOBODY SAID SUSAN HASN'T MOVED ON, WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU? ARE YOU NUTS?
BY THE WAY SHAKESPEARE, TAKE YOUR GRAMMAR LESSON AND STICK IT UP YOUR ARSEHOLE! ARE YOU NUTS?
AND YES, YOU FIGURED US OUT, EVERYBODY WE HAVE BEEN UNMASKED BY LIZ THE AVENGER. WE ARE JEALOUS AND THIS IS A PLOY TO BRING MONKEY GIRL DOWN SO WE CAN HAVE A GO WITH CHRIS. ONCE HE SEES US HE'LL REALIZE WHAT GEMS WE ARE AND BECOME MORMON SO HE CAN HAVE TWO WIVES. COOL AIN'T IT?, YOU, LIZ, ARE NOT INVITED THOUGH!!! NO ROCKSTAR FOR YOU, PRINCESS!!!
SUPERUNKNOWN IS FROM SEATTLE CAN'T YOU READ?, WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
PROVE ME WRONG, YOU IDIOT, GO AHEAD AND PROVE ME WRONG BUT WHILE YOU ARE AT IT, TAKE A NUMBER, GO STAND IN LINE AND WAIT FOR YOUR TURN TO KISS MY ASS!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/03/2004 01:34 AM CST

LISTEN KEATS, NOBODY SAID CHRIS DOESN'T LOVE HIS WIFE, OK?
DUH,HE MARRIED HER DIDN'T HE? ONE ASSUMES HE CARES FOR HER. BUT THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT. THIS IS THE DEAL HEMMINGWAY; I WANT PICTURES OF BEAUTIFUL VICKY WHICH YOU, LIZ DEAR, WILL PROVIDE AND I ALSO SIGNED AFFIDAVITS OF 'EVERYBODY' WHO SAYS SHE IS STUNNIG. VICKY, (SORRY TO BREAK YOU HEART STIENBECK), IS NOT STUNNING AND NEVER HAS BEEN. MAYBE YOU WERE SO STARSTRUCK BY SEEING CHRIS THAT SHE LOOKED GOOD TOO, BUT SHE'S NOT EVEN PRETTY. OK? DON'T BE SILLY HONEY, IT REALLY ISN'T WORTH IT, IS IT? I MEAN IT'S NOT LIKE SHE'S YOUR FAMILY. AND BESIDES IF YOU REALLY THOUGHT THIS WAS BULLSHIT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE POSTED. YOU HAVE SOME DOUBTS AND THAT'S WHY YOU GOT PISSED. WHY WASTE TIME IF YOU REALLY DON'T CARE?
JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M NOT JEALOUS, OK, YOU ARE JUST A STUPID LITTLE TWIT WITH ACCESS TO THE INTERNET BUT LITTLE BRAINS BEHIND THE TYPING FINGERS. IF YOU'D SEEN SOME OF THE PEOPLE VICKY HAS HURT YOU'D BITE YOU TONGUE BEFORE CALLING PEOPLE LIARS. AND REALLY THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO SPEAK ENGLISH IS A LITTLE STRANGE TO SAY THE LEAST. WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU? ARE YOU NUTS?

Posted by Morgan @ 08/03/2004 01:54 AM CST

Hi, KC, I wasn't trying to ignore you but in my jealousy I forgot my manners. I'm a jealous liar, illiterate and rude too. No wonder I'm so damn tired all the time.
Hope you had fun though! :)

Posted by Morgan @ 08/03/2004 02:27 AM CST

morgan, ah, i love that line to stand in line to kiss ur ass, sheer shakespeare. it's good to have people like u around who i can tell things to. i have never said anything in public about this whole issue. thanks to u morgan and sunnyenergy and SG Gal and etc. i can, thankyou once again.

yeah, people who say vicky's pretty are obvious blind. if u like big-foot well, u'd reckon she's a goddess.

morgan, some people are so stupid. i'm glad u figured out where i'm from, it isn't so hard.

that's right, chris wears a necklace with a ring from susan on it on a piece of string. i assume there are pictures of him wearing it everywhere on the internet, he's been wearing it for a long time. i think he will keep wearing it but then again, vicky might destroy it or something. that shithead.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/03/2004 05:38 AM CST

I was wondering- What does Chris look like in person? What kind of person is he? He seems great but I am just wondering from people that really know him. i know he is beautiful in photos but in person someone please describe(everyone has definetily descibed vicky). thanks

Posted by laila @ 08/03/2004 07:36 AM CST

Morgan and superunknown I'm so glad youfound this site!! Especially if it ends up helping everyone all around in the end. Just remember that when morons post, because there's plenty of them out there obviously!!

Posted by SG Gal @ 08/03/2004 09:32 AM CST

Oh and superunknown do you see Karen a lot? Just wondering if she's likely to say anything to you....

Posted by SG Gal @ 08/03/2004 09:35 AM CST

Laila, I haven't seen that many pictures of Chris but the few times I saw him he looked fine to me. He's very tall and skinny, even though he works out he still is thin. I've seen him with and without that tan. Personally I think he looks better without it. He looked really orange because its a tan from a tanning salon and it doesn't look natural at all. She's the one with the tanning salon thing, it's really big in Europe to go to tanning places. They do it almost religously. Without the tan, when I saw him I remember thinking he had really dark circles under his eyes. He looks his age, not that here is anything wrong with that. He looks like a good looking 40 year old. No reason why someone who is forty shouldn't look good. He was nice to me when we spoke (about five words each time.) Superunknown you know him, so spill the beans.

This 'liz' almost had me going. Sweetie if you are reading this you got close but sorry, no cigar.
I'm curious though, why the only thing that got to you was my saying that Vicky is ugly. She is ugly both outside and inside.
See... that's the one thing that really gets to Vicky, she is very self-conscious about her looks. She looks the part, she wears designer clothes, has pretty long hair and is rather slender herself so can look attractive but she is not stunning. Long hair and being pregnant don't make a woman beautiful if she wasn't to begin with. Why did that get to you?
Since you say you saw her, I want a full description of her. What was she wearing, her handbag and her shoes. I want to know about her make-up, especially the eyeshadow color. As I said Vicky sometimes looks cross-eyed because her nose is too big for her face so depending on what she is looking at, her eyes look really close set and make her look cross-eyed. She uses a certain colored eye shadow to disguise this. What color is it? What about her lipstick? what color was that, she uses one shade most of the time. So?
One little, teeny weeny detail. Vicky has a very visible mole on her face, where is it exactly?

Your bellyaching got me a-thinking. When did Vicky start using someone else to do her dirty work for her? has pregnancy slowed her down?
If you think she'll thank you for your friendship and repay your support with the same thing you are going to get a nasty surprise?
I'm done with you and if you post again I'll just pretend you don't exist. Sweetheart you have been dismissed!

Just for the record, don't lie to me about Vicky, I know the cow and whatever you say to me about her, unless its the truth, I'll just shoot you down.

Go tell your 'buddy' to go to hell and take your sorry ass with her.

Posted by Morgan @ 08/03/2004 12:03 PM CST

SG Gal, thank you, that was a very nice thing of you to say.
Superunknown, it's true what you say, its good to have people to share this kind of thing with. So thank-you all for putting up with me. Not an easy thing to do!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/03/2004 12:09 PM CST

Don't use this forum to put down Susan ever again. We don't like that kind of shit here!
Nobody cares how old Susan is and if her clock is ticking its her business not yours.
Don't be so fucking obvious.
Tell Vicky to fuck off!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/03/2004 12:44 PM CST

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE?ARE YOU ALL OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MINDS?GET A LIFE BITCHES....LEAVE THESE FUCKING PEOPLE ALONE,IT'S A ONE THING TO ADORE BUT INTERFERE IN THEIR FUCKING LIFE?THIS IS LOW...............AND FFUUCCKK OOFFFF,YOU MAKING ALL ME SICKKKKKKKK MOTHE'FUCKERS,BURN IN HELL:)

Posted by NO MORE POSTING FROM ME @ 08/03/2004 03:47 PM CST

TRY DOING YOGA, I HEAR ITS VERY RELAXING!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/03/2004 04:32 PM CST

Well Bitch,
Don't post again.

By the way, this was about Lily, an innocent baby, whom Vicky is using as her whooping post. And to Morgan and Superunknown, you two are right for posting. What is being missed here is the real issue--LILY! I don't give a damn what misery adults put themselves in, but the child should never be injected into it.

Posted by Santo Cielo @ 08/03/2004 04:40 PM CST

What you say about Lily is very true. There' s no excuse for some of the things that are happening. Again, thanks for posting the link!

About this other thing, she really got annoyed, must have been something I said. Maybe it was my comment about not being so obvious! Go figure!

The more people read this, the better! Eventually someone will tell Vicky they are on to her.
Keep it coming girls, I think its gonna work after all!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/03/2004 04:54 PM CST

I'm gonna lose your admiration
I'm gonna look for secret doors
I'm gonna kill your inspiration
You've got to believe me
You've got to leave me

I'm gonna treat you like a temple
I'm gonna wash you every night
I'm gonna die for you my angel
You've got to believe me
You've got to leave me

You've got to believe me
That everything I do
I do for you... baby
And if you want me too
We don't need no body

I'm gonna be with you forever
I'm gonna mess your life once more
I'm gonna ask you for a favor
You've got to believe me
You've got to leave me

I'm gonna sleep with you tomorrow
I'm gonna make you see me cry
I'm gonna let you touch my sorrow
You've got to believe me
You've got to leave me

You've got to believe me
That everything I do
I do for you... baby
And if you want me too
We don't need no body

I'm gonna make you lose direction
I'm gonna see right through your lies
I'm gonna change your distination
You've got to believe me
You've got to leave me

I'm gonna lose your admiration
I'm gonna set your heart on fire
I'm gonna kill your inspiration
You've got to believe me
You've got to leave me

You've got to believe me
That everything I do
I do for you... baby
And if you want me too
We don't need no body

Posted by 548 @ 08/03/2004 06:06 PM CST

I like it. It's actually similar in many ways to some of the poetry I've written now and again - but better. Forgive my overwhelming ignorance, but can someone tell me who wrote it?

Posted by KC @ 08/03/2004 10:15 PM CST

Here's what I found http://www.lyred.com/lyrics/Hayehudim/Pachad+Mavet/You've+Got+To+Believe+Me/

Posted by SG Gal @ 08/03/2004 10:21 PM CST

Here's what I found http://www.lyred.com/lyrics/Hayehudim/Pachad+Mavet/You've+Got+To+Believe+Me/

Posted by SG Gal @ 08/03/2004 10:21 PM CST

Oops!! Sorry bout that!!

Posted by SG Gal @ 08/03/2004 10:23 PM CST

Hey Morgan this is gonna sound silly and superficial, but as a girl I'm curious what color eye shadow can disguise closeset eyes?? I'm always curious about all the things people will do to change how they look on the outside.
Of course its too bad not many put as much thought into who they are inside....

Posted by SG Gal @ 08/03/2004 10:34 PM CST

It's not a silly question. Dark eye shadows, like chocolate and steel grays, make your eyes seem deeper and more intense. As long as your eyes are not too light, otherwise you end up looking like Dracula's mom. But keep the upper inside corner of your eye free of color and liners. Start applying color about half way on your eyelid, like a liner. Fade it outward in a cat-eye sort of way. And then apply mascara focusing on the lashes of the outer corner. It gives the illusion that your eyes are elongated and bigger than they really are and it detracts attention from the cross-eyed thing. You can also dab a highlighting color on the very center of your eyelid to brighten it up, Don't line the bottom lid of your eye or you end up looking like Garfield.
There's nothing wrong with being curious about what other women do, how are we going to figure out what we like and what makes us feel good about ourselves if we aren't curious?

As long as I don't become self-absorbed I don't mind taking care of how I look, hopefully I'll never forget the inside me.

Posted by Morgan @ 08/03/2004 11:27 PM CST

i gonna pretend those unwelcomes motherfuckers aren't here so let's proceed.

morgan thanku and thanku too the rest of u nice people. i'm glad i can't vent out with u guys.

SG Gal, well, chris has looked so different over the past couple of years. he is tall, i think 6'4", skinny that's for sure but he is buffing up. he has an orangy tan like morgan said but i too think he suits his natural skin colour. he has green eyes with bits of blue which looks like blue in alot of pictures, it's like an optical illusion but he does have stunning green eyes, much like lily's. he has a rare hand pattern on his hand, instead of the lifelines connecting up at the corner of his hand, the lines stay seperate, i've always told him how i think that's cool bcoz me aswell as about 5 friends and family have that too, i call them 'bud' lines coz we're all buddies. i haven't met anyone else besides those 5 that have that pattern. he used to have dark brown hair but since he's bleached it, it's a lighter brown with a mix of light brown and red. umm, what else, he has short fingers and scarily unhairy legs, yeah, they're a bit hairy but not as hairy as they should be. he has light freckles on his face which cameras sometimes capture.

personality wise, chris has that deadpan humour which can be so much fun but sometimes, u dunno if he's serious or not, long-time friends are aware what he means, thankfully. he can be very sweet but sometimes he can be immature like when he gets drunk. i remember once bakc in the eighties, we were all pissed at a friends apartment and he took her bra and paraded around the house saying, 'i'm so sexy, i know u wanna fuck me', or something like that, he likes having fun.

these days he's a little more 'fuck u', he's not shy off anything. he doesn't let anything control him but vicky, which is shit.

morgan , i like ur beauty tips, that's lots of fun.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/04/2004 02:25 AM CST

oh, karen does run into me sometimes. i'm hoping she doesn't figure out who i am if she reads this, she doesn't know chris and i were like that back in '84, which is good, i guess. she does know about my children and stuff so hopefully, she won't figure me out.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/04/2004 02:29 AM CST

oh i meant CAN vent out with u guys, CAN

Posted by superunknown @ 08/04/2004 02:31 AM CST

I'n expert on beauty at all, I just saw a soemthing on TV that dealt with using make-up to cover up scars, burns and minor' flaws'. One of these flaws was close set eyes. But that's as far as my 'expertise' goes. Some of the things that people have to deal with in their lives are just heartbreaking. You should have seen some of these women, it was heart wrenching but it was also very humbling. Some of these women have scars that can never be fixed and still they figure out how to make the best of things. The contrast between their reality and the whole "superstar" thing was just to huge to ever change. I'm glad am not important.

About Karen , I don't know if she'll read this. She might ignore the post but I'm hoping she won't. Hopefully she won't recognize you and even if she does, she has to know your intentions are good. You are just worried about your friends and want what's best for them. Also there's a small child involved here and another one coming, being a mother, its natural that you would be seriously concerned, being one herself I'm sure she can understand your motivation for posting. I'm not a mom and I'm disgusted at that creature, I can only imagine what a woman with children feels about what's going on.

Posted by Morgan @ 08/04/2004 01:13 PM CST

I have to work on my spelling. I eant I'M NO EXPERT, AND I SAW SOMETHING ON TV. Geez!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/04/2004 01:14 PM CST

see what I mean? there I go again; I MEANT, argh!!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/04/2004 01:15 PM CST

Wow thank you Morgan!! I followed your directions just to see what it would look like on me with my green eyes and I had so much fun!! Of course I also tried the things you said not to do because I wanted to see how bad it could be. It was too funny, as in bride-of-Marilyn-Manson funny. lol Any tips on disgiusing chipmunk cheeks too?? :) I feel like I'm in school again.
By they way, when I said that about people not putting thought into who they are inside, I was thinking of Vicky. It just seems like she does so much to herself that if she put half as much effort into being decent to other people she'd be a much better person.

And Superunknown thank you too for sharing. Chris sounds like he's a great guy to have as a friend and not because of "who" he is celebrity wise but because of who he is as a person. He sounds like a fun person to be around and a good person inside. You are lucky to keep friendships like that for so long. It's surprising how rare that can be.
I think even if Karen does figure out who you are it will be all okay because it's so obvious that you are here because you care. As a mother, how could she hold it against you for caring about her son and trying to keep him and his child from being hurt?? As Sunnyenergy said, positive energy!!

Posted by SG Gal @ 08/04/2004 11:03 PM CST

Superunknown if you don't mind me asking, I heard somewhere once that Chris likes the outdoors. Like camping under the full moon, eagles and ameture photography kind of stuff. Is that true?? Sounds pretty cool. :)

Posted by SG Gal @ 08/04/2004 11:08 PM CST

SG Gal, totally chris absolutely loves the outdoors. i've mountain biked with him and a few friends a few times. most of the times when we did do that, we were all freezing our asses of but, it was fun.

morgan, thank u for the support and u too sg gal. i mother and child bond is indeed special, i guess she would uderstan if she does infact figure me out.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/05/2004 01:43 AM CST

i meant A mother and child bond... and UNDERSTAND if she does... man, i really can't spell. well, for all of chris' fans out there, he's even worse at spelling than me.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/05/2004 01:47 AM CST

I figured you were talking about her but I try not to mention her unless I really have to. The chipmunk thing, I'm sorry, but I don't have a fix for. Try applying blush bellow you cheeck bone, more for contouring than for color, use slightly darker shades than what you usually use, you are trying to create a shadow under your cheek bone so start with very light applications of color and add more if you want the color stronger, if you want to know the perfect shade for you, pinch your cheek, gently, don't be like me and give yourself a bruise, gently pinch the skin and look at the color it gets. That shade is the blush that best suits you for contouring. I have to do the opposite, my cheek bones stick out so I have to hide them somehow. Do you know how to disguise scrawny arms and legs? That would help me a lot. Don't tell me to gain weight, I get a big butt and my arms are still scrawny.
What I'm curious about is that Chris has a lot of very devoted fans and reading this forum you all seem very nice. I can't speak for other forums, but for the most part ,the people that post here are very cool. Why the hell didn't find himself a nice girl from around here to get serious with? You are all nice girls, you sincerely care for him, what's the problem? I don't see one myself. But noooo, he has to go find himself "that creature" when his got so many nice women around, who don't care about how much he's got in the bank, or the fame, I really think you guys care for him as a person, the way you all react to what's happening tells me this is not some gossip column, you guys really care for this man. I don't get it. Sometimes men do things that I can't understand, their behaviour is illogical (I used illogical because I didn't want to use imbecillic, I thought that would be hasrh)
So one of you has to explain this thing to me, especially the part were he chose this female thing he's with, when he could be with really nice woman who would love his first child and have a good life with a probable future.
Superunknown, sorry, but you are on the spot again, explain it to me. Tell me what you think is going on. I'm not trying to put you on the spot on purpose, well.... no really, but you know him. And I know her. and we know she is bad news. What do you think he needs?, you tell me that, and I tell you what I beleive she provides. Maybe that way you can see what is happening to him and you might be able to figure out a way for him. Maybe you can tell what you know to his mom, at this point why the hell not, and she can help him. I don't know. I think its worth a try. I mean knowledge is power. The more we know the higher the chances you might be able to help him. If I could I would, but the only way I can help is to tell you what I know and then you do what you think is best because you know him. Does this make any sense, or did I just loose my mind?
I just feel guilty and worried because am afraid that once she's done with him she'll just push him aside and move on to someone new and possibly younger. We were all surprised when a man his age fell for her, we assumed that an 'older' man would be wise to the likes of her, but he fell face first right in it.
What say you superunknown?
If there are misspellings sorry, I can't help it. It's part of my charm. I am smilling charmingly as I right this!)

Posted by Morgan @ 08/05/2004 02:36 AM CST

ur very right morgan. there are plenty of genuinely good people out there for those who deserve them. chris has a fair share of nice women in his life, maybe he wanted a change, lol, i really dunno.
when chris met his first 'real-love', his face was alwyas glowing and under the sometimes frowning that he did, their was a smile; he was happy.

vicky might treat him like that, just throwing him away which we the family and friends are prepeared to comfort him. the baby is due very soon, maybe this will open a curtain for chris.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/05/2004 03:56 AM CST

It's my first time here. If I know people who actually know Chris and Vicky were here I wouldn't come here along time ago.
Superunknown, even though Chris and you are just friends, do you feel anything more than that towards him, did you guys date? You're very lucky to of kissed him, wow, that is a dream. I don't mean anything by my questions but if I was you 20 years ago, I would snatch him all for myself, he is truely a gift.

Morgan, wow, Vicky's really that bad? How old is she? She sounds like a child.

Posted by Paige @ 08/05/2004 04:53 AM CST

I meant would've come along time ago, sorry.

Posted by Paige @ 08/05/2004 04:54 AM CST

Hello and welcome. The people here are very kewl!!!

Vicky is pretty bad, she's not a monster, but she's done a lot of nasty things and doesn't seem to care about it. I can't say how old she is because only the people who are 'close' to her know that and I'm not ready to give myself away, but she is definitely over twenty five. I don't know how the rumor of her being in her lower twenties started. It's just like the Ivy League thing, SNORT!!! Rumors are odd little things.

She's not a child, she's old enouogh to know better, but Vicky has always been spoilt rotten and has always gotten everything she wants, so she has no concept about how to respect others.
She has one thing though, she is very confident, she never seems to doubt anything, which is how she always gets what she wants. And she's always had someone to fix things for her and has never had to work hard for anything. Perfect combo.

For all who say she is so accomplished, this is Paris we are talking about, its one of the most difficult cities in the world to live in. The competition is ruthless. And being young is a negative thing when it comes to business. Not enough experience, not enough maturity, no credilbilty, etc. The business values here are still very old-fashioned. It takes about a decade of really hard work to establish yourself there. Besides, the city is ridiulously expensive; rent, utilites, groceries, everything. A Coke can cost $ 4, a taxi can bankrupt you for life. And its getting worse, with all the sanctions the US has placed on France, the country's economy is going down the drain quickly, it wasn't really that good to begin with, regardles of what the French say, because of the unification of the Euro as Europe's currency. So think about it, how likely is it that a girl in her 'early twenties' will set up as a publishing agent in Paris and become a sensation overnight. She's been around for about four years and half or so, and is already rich and famous and blah, blah, blah... ? Anybody buying this? How likely is that? Bullshit, she's had help, lots of help. If it wasn't for her family she'd be nowhere. She's had a safety net all her life and now she has the best of them all; she married someone famous. How many of you think she's going to go back to 'work'?

I don't want to say anything else about her. I think I've said enough and everybody has a pretty good idea of who she is. I'm sorry if somebody is offended by what I say but somebody, sooner or later, was bound to speak up about her. I just did it first. Hopefully, it will yield a positive result!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/05/2004 09:37 AM CST

I have to give it to her though: she said that no matter how hard it would be, she'd do whatever it took to get Chris, and get Chris she did!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/05/2004 09:45 AM CST

When is vicky due?

Posted by laila @ 08/05/2004 07:42 PM CST

I'm no doctor, but last time I checked, human pregnancy lasts 9 months, so she better have that baby soon.
If she told us the truth about when she got pregnant, she is due the end of August. Because I thought that baby should have been born already or was pretty close to being born, I looked at the calendar and realized I forgot to count one month, I went from April straight to June and forgot all about May. Sorry about my previous post, didn't mean to mislead anyone.

Posted by Morgan @ 08/05/2004 10:32 PM CST

You know what guys? I sound like a regular know-it-all and I don't like that. I don't want to come across that way at all. So I take the previous post back. Laila, I don't have a clue as to when Vicky is due and I DON'T WANT TO KNOW. Am not her obstetrician so its none of my business to know. The baby's due date is between Vicky and her conscience. All I can do is hope the baby is healthy and even though I don't like Vicky at all, I wish her a quick and easy delivery. That's as far as I'm going with that one!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/05/2004 11:48 PM CST

morgan, that's ok. say what u want, we don't mind.

paige, i don't have feelings for chris. sure, i think he is good-looking and all but, feelings like that ended a long time ago. i mean, yeah, when i first met him, i though he was pretty nice. we never dated, we already knew stuff about eachother so it was kinda dumb. y'know, it was kinda 'young-crush' thing, we didn't get serious, oh no. we didn't have a 'serious, romantic relationship'.

how is life these days guys, treating u good?

Posted by superunknown @ 08/06/2004 02:20 AM CST

Superunknown did you ever have sex with Chris?

Posted by Colleen @ 08/06/2004 02:32 AM CST

Superunknown did you ever have sex with Chris?

Posted by Colleen @ 08/06/2004 02:32 AM CST

colleen, I'm not gonna answer that question with a straight answer, 1. if i said i did, u'd think i was making it up or something, 2. if i said i didn't, u'd think i was too chicken shit too have sex with him. i'll let u decide colleen. y r u so curious? do u need to know? lol, i'm sure it's just because he's a good-looking man (and i think u would of liked to have sex with chris, ha colleen?)

Posted by superunknown @ 08/06/2004 03:17 AM CST

Just curious.

Posted by Colleen @ 08/06/2004 03:20 AM CST

but seriously, it makes me a little uneasy talking about his sex life and me and him, he's my friend and if someone asked u if u had sex with a dear friend, wouldn't u be uneasy? i mean, it's ur friend! ok, moving on from his sex life...

Posted by superunknown @ 08/06/2004 03:20 AM CST

that's ok colleen, u decide and i don't say, it's ok.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/06/2004 03:22 AM CST

Superunknown I think that is really cool that you are close to Susan. And that Lily has your children to play with. I hope Susan and Lily are doing well. Susan always seemed like a very cool person.

Posted by Colleen @ 08/06/2004 03:24 AM CST

i have never (before this site) talked about chris in public so those questions are bound to happen. i remember when he was on a break, chris, susan, me, and another friend went out for coffee. after that, when he and susan left, these girls came up to me and my friend asking all these sorts of questions, lost of silly ones. that was kinda scary.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/06/2004 03:25 AM CST

susan and lily are great. they're doing well. lily's a growing little girl who's soon gaining her father's looks and probably her mother's personality. it's great that people haven't forgot them, even if susan has kinda stepped outta the lime light.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/06/2004 03:28 AM CST

Superunknown, u soooo did! Omg, u did it with Chris! argh! YOU CAN TELL! YOU'RE SO LUCKY, LUCKY, LUCKY, LUCKY!

Posted by Devo @ 08/06/2004 03:41 AM CST

Superunknown, thankyou for replying to the questions I asked.
You guys seem very cool. I agree with Morgan's post back there, there are alot of better people for Chris out there. Superunknown, I too think he might of done 'you-know-what' with 'you-know-who'. My jaw dropped open when I saw that, you sould cool, you should of had him! :D

Posted by Paige @ 08/06/2004 04:12 AM CST

OH NO, WHAT DID I START HERE?!!!

Posted by Colleen @ 08/06/2004 04:56 AM CST

Woah! This is the real deal! I haven't met Chris Cornell or Vicky Karayiannis but I would love to meet Chris. I never thought I would come across people who KNOW them! This is so cool!!! Superunknown, those were personal questions but with we the female fans absolutely head over heels in love with him, we're just so damn curious! Do you know how much we would like to be in your shoes?! You are one lucky, lucky person. Please tell him we all absolutely love him, I think he would know that by now though.
Morgan it's a shame Vicky is so nasty and rude, I hope she's not mean to you anymore. Be strong dear.
This is so great! I just wrote a message to Superunknown and Morgan who know CHRIS CORNELL AND VICKY KARAYIANNIS!

Posted by Fairuza @ 08/06/2004 07:37 AM CST

Huh. So this is what celebrities have to deal with..

Posted by KC @ 08/06/2004 09:33 AM CST

Huh, is right. WOAH!!! SCARY!!!

Be strong, dear? Did I miss something?

Colleen you definitely started something here and it is a little strange.

I'm sorry guys but I think this is where I sign off which is a shame because I like it here ebut... This is getting weird-like and I don't't think the people in this forum are like that at all. This isn't groupie central so I'm off.

KC, SG Gal, Superunknown and the rest of you; you guys are great, it's been awesome. Take care of yourselves and keep the good energy going.
PEACE!!!

Superunknown, good luck!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/06/2004 11:53 AM CST

congrats on chasing morgan away. now the limelight is where it belongs on superunknown. how old are u? to know chris for so long u have to be in ur 30s but u sound like a teenager. u had me going until this sex with chris thing. if anybody believes this crud ur all morons. ur posts are vague and implied, no straightforward answers. chris doesn't have short fingers, look at his pictures, he is 6'2, and the thing about the hand lines is in a interview. everything u say is in interviews. if u din't do it just say so, make urself interesting by lying bout stupid shit. who the fuck cares if you fucked him or not. can't believe i fell for this shit. u can rant at me all u want, i don't give a fuck. u lying bitch. rant, rant, rant, ha, ha,ha, morgan got chased away by a bunch of horny teeny boppers, ha, ha, ha,, bye bye morgan, see ya

Posted by me @ 08/06/2004 12:54 PM CST

lol, 'me', u sure have something up ur ass. did i answer that question? no, i didn't.

u obviously don't know the REAL info about chris. yeah, i have known him for awhile, he's 2 years older than me, yes, that would make me 38.

gee, interviewers must know alot, do u really think i go around the interent searching for stuff? well, i don't and u don't know me so fuck off. it's unbelievable, people say, 'oohh, i wish i knew him or her or someone who knows them', and when someone that does comes along, u don't believe them. i'm not a lying bitch, wanna come and see who i am and where i'm from and who i know? then u'll shut the fuck up.

morgan, i'm sorry that u got chased away by those scary questions. it was towards me anyway, and i don't really care so don't let that vex u.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/06/2004 09:28 PM CST

ok if u know fris, u won't mind telling me y i call him fris. tell me where the 'fris' thing comes from and i'll apologize to u. humor me

Posted by me @ 08/06/2004 10:02 PM CST

lol. peter (his brother) and chris worked in a restaurant here in seattle. it was chris' second job and he was looking for a new place to work at so peter made a deal with the boss for chris to come and work there too. for reasons, i won't name the restaurant but it is pretty classy and chris was lucky that he got it through peter. peter's nickname was peter b because the cornell kids used to have ed's last name, boyle. when chris worked there, the dude started calling chris 'chris b'. the guy was old and couldn't remember the employees names properly and he started calling chris 'frisbee'. chris didn't mind and now all his friends call him fris, even i do but i use 'chris' online to clarify just whom i'm talking about. anyway, there you go. i don't have to proove myself to u but if u do question me, i'm gonna set ur ass straight.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/06/2004 10:14 PM CST

U can find that out from really old in terviews. If u r friends with Chris- who no one calls fris where does he live now?

Posted by i think ur full of shit @ 08/06/2004 10:36 PM CST

If you'll humor me, here's one you won't find in any interviews: what year did Chris and Susan buy their house on the west side of Seattle? Specifically the one on the street-that-I-won't-name that you turn onto from the same street that the Easy Street Cafe is on?

Posted by ex-WA resident @ 08/06/2004 10:36 PM CST

PS You didn't know what kind of car he drives- no u didn't know about the corvette which he has had for about 2 yeaqrs yet u know that little story.

Posted by i know ur full of shit @ 08/06/2004 10:41 PM CST

EX-WA resident u have wrong info the house is much further south from easy street cafe.

Posted by i still know ur full of shit superunknowing @ 08/06/2004 10:46 PM CST

chris has houses in seattle, ojai, paris, and a holiday home that he doesn't want the public to know. chris and susan have bought houses alot of time, 1991, 1995, 1999 and chris will probably continue to buy more. look, morgan is right, i don't have to put up with shit from idiots like u. this is getting scary, i'm not putting out personal things about chris, people are asking me personal things about him. it's ridiculous. if u 'fans' like chris so much, y r u doubting people who know him? this will be my last post, too bad, i like it here when there were people who knew and respected the truth and now it's been swarmed with doubting, irritating motherfuckers like u. lol, the god thing is, that's the people chris dislikes, people like u. KC, SG Gal, Morgan, sunnyenergy, it was good talking to all of you. thatnkyou for letting me finally vent out somewhere and fluttergirl, thankyou for letting us. you girls are the true fans. if u guys are ever in seattle, gimme a buzz.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/06/2004 10:48 PM CST

Morgan, I had the exact same reaction - I don't want to be here if that's what this forum is going to become. I wish we could keep in touch because you, superunknown, SG Gal, sunnyenergy and the rest have been great! I wish I could say keep in touch, but I don't know how.. I'll check back now and again in case things revert to normal, (but I don't hold much hope at the moment).
Before I sign off though, I have one last question for superunknown. When I first signed on here many posts ago, I asked if Chris still had a house in Ojai - do you know? The reason I ask is there is a sweet little high-tech music studio tucked away there that not many know about, and if you think he might want to check it out rather than driving 80 miles into LA whenever he wants to be in a studio, I'll have the manager make some calls. However, if he doesn't even have a place there anymore then I won't bother. Let me know - and thanks for the posts!

Posted by KC @ 08/06/2004 10:53 PM CST

I know exactly where the house is because family of mine sold it to them. Yes it's much further south, you have that right. Stay on the same street the Cafe is on though and then turn off that onto their street. You were close with the year only off by one.

Posted by ex-WA resident @ 08/06/2004 11:00 PM CST

we just want to know u r telling the truth- u guys sure did pour out alot of heavy shit what's wrong with ocassionally checking up on the sources. so where does Chris live now superunknown, u never answered the question. ur track of dates r impressive- also easy to get. come on superunknown if u really know him u this is an easy one for u.

Posted by i still know ur full of shit @ 08/06/2004 11:07 PM CST

Look girls, a friend of mine, told me after I posted today, that I was being childish and was letting myself be influenced by people that don't matter. I think she's right. It's obvious that we like each other so there's no reason why a bunch of 'unknowns' should chase us away, we where here first, damn it!
Let's just ignore the unwanted stuff or let's start our own forum, why the hell not? but I don't see why we should stop talking to each other.

To all the nay-sayers, yes... we are full of shit, yes... we are making up shit, yes... we are lying bitches, by the way; WELCOME TO LYING BITCHES ANONYMOUS, blah, blah, blah...

Check all the previous posts, we've dealt with people like you before, so ... whatever!

Chris is living right now in LA, everybody knows that, even me, because AS is working on their new CD, AS is based there and Chitah is about to pop.

KC and Superunknown don't go, just ignore 'them'. I refuse to have someone I don't even know chase me away! Fuck them.

Really, take a number, go stand in line and wait for your turn to kiss me arse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If we ignore their posts they'll get bored and go away.

Posted by Morgan @ 08/06/2004 11:41 PM CST

WE ARE ALL LYING SO GO AWAY!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/06/2004 11:45 PM CST

Wow, you people are really harsh. Why does Superunknown have to tell you every detail about Chris in order for you to believe her? If you do believe her, then fine, but if not, then nobody's holding a gun to your head saying to post here. You guys should really just lay off.

Posted by glorifiedg @ 08/06/2004 11:53 PM CST

Actually I take that back! STAY!!!

'FULL OF SHIT' humor me! Tell us about yourself, you check up on us, we check up on you, I think that's fair. so here goes: what do you have to bring to the table? We want to know, if you are to be welcomed into the inner sanctum of our forum, you must provide us with interesting information, so lets have it. WHAT DO YOU KNOW?

'ex-WA resident' same goes to you, enlighten us.

If you two have things to share with us, you are welcome, I think we all agree on this. Just like the people in this forum welcomed me, they will welcome you, but if you just want to bust everybody's balls,then... considering we are all female, you are going to have to go somewhere else!!!
SO, LET'S HAVE IT!!!!

Posted by mORGAN @ 08/06/2004 11:53 PM CST

And by people I meant the others posting above, not you, Morgan.

Posted by glorifiedg @ 08/06/2004 11:55 PM CST

Superunknown doesn't have to tell anybody anything!
Remember what you told me?, don't let it vex you.

Same to you, glorified, just ignore them. Don't waste your precious time, it's not worth it!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/06/2004 11:58 PM CST

I know what you meant but thanx anyway!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 12:00 AM CST

Morgan you do have a point - how ironic that last time you were going to leave I posted asking you to stay and now you are doing the same for me - thank you. I don't want to leave either - it's just hard to read that kind of stuff.
Celebrities a.k.a "VIPs" are just people - they have to put up with crap at work, try to get enough sleep at night, try to make time for their families and even brush their teeth in the morning, just like the rest of us! The whole "OH MY GOD IT'S SO-AND-SO" factor is just weird - and makes me want to get far, far, FAR away from people.

Posted by KC @ 08/07/2004 12:00 AM CST

I know what you mean KC, it's weird and kind of gross and surreal all at the same time. You just want to not think about it because its just so fake. When all is said and done, we are all the same. Nobody is better than anybody else, and it makes me sick to my stomach when people kiss ass just beacuse so-and-so is famous.

Stick around, OK? I want you too!, and the same goes for Superunknown and the rest of the girls.

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 12:06 AM CST

By the way, I NEVER GET ENOUGH SLEEP. Can't remember the last time I slept more than five hours a night!

I HATE MY ALARM CLOCK!!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 12:08 AM CST

I didn't ask where he is recording i asked where is he living? That's a specific question nothing to do with recording. By the way Morgan, u know alot about AS as u say for someone who claims she just knows about them thru Chitah

Posted by u r even more full of shit @ 08/07/2004 12:13 AM CST

morgan, kc, glorifiedg... i'm back! :D

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 12:13 AM CST

You too huh? I started getting severe headaches from lack of sleep combined with stress from work - I went to a doctor and she prescribed me a pill to take at night.. turns out it's also an anti-depressant! So I still don't get enough sleep, but now it doesn't bother me anymore. lol

Posted by KC @ 08/07/2004 12:16 AM CST

Superunknown, I'm glad you are back - we'll present a united front!

Posted by KC @ 08/07/2004 12:17 AM CST

IFull of Shit' I claim nothing, remeber, I am a jealous liar, and illiterate and rude so don't bug me. Is he living somewher else as he records? Does he have out-of-body experiences, he records in LA but lives somewhere else? The man is a magician!!!

WHY DON"T U TELL US, 'FULL OF SHIT'?

Superunknown, it's about time!!! LOL

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 12:19 AM CST

So glad u r all back- who knows we may all even be friends

Posted by answers anyone?????? @ 08/07/2004 12:20 AM CST

yeah, u shouldn't listen to what i say because i don't even know chris, i'm a lying bitch so everything i say is made up, u other motherfuckers, i hope u had fun reading my entertaining made up stories! everything i say is made up, huh morgan and kc? we all make up everything, isn't that right girls?

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 12:22 AM CST

answers anyone??????, we're all friends, do u really think we would leave for good? we're friends, i like to think so.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 12:25 AM CST

Yeap, that's right! Maybe we should try and publish this stuff, what do you think girls? I mean, this is great stuff. Picture it..., we publish a book and it becomes a best seller, then we get an offer to make a movie and we go Hollywood and then? ... we get a Pulizer! Hell, sounds good to me!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 12:27 AM CST

Okay genius - where is his residence? Where does he call home? Actually come to think of it where do u live? I mean besides the good ol' US and Paris? Paris wasn't it- lovely city where abouts?

Posted by u rn't full of shit or r u? @ 08/07/2004 12:28 AM CST

NOBODY LEAVES!!! WE STICK AROUND AND THAT'S FINAL!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 12:29 AM CST

Actually I live in Morocco! Would u like a fez?

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 12:30 AM CST

morgan i never said u were jealous- ur a little defensive dont ya think?
I have changed my name so as not to offend

Posted by me 2 @ 08/07/2004 12:31 AM CST

Yes I am! I am all of the above!
What else?

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 12:32 AM CST

I only know about the house. I was just giving superunknown a chance to prove something thats not published and would not give away personal info. Take a day or two and go ask Susan the exact month and year they signed for the house. If you post that and it matches Ill support you unquestioned.

Posted by ex-WA resident @ 08/07/2004 12:35 AM CST

really? morocco? yeah, and i live in monaco where the cars are fast and the bankruptcy comes slow. i wiping my ass with $100 notes as we speak.

morgan, i think it'd be great for us to write a book together. it'd be the best ficitonal biography. tell me where to sign.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 12:37 AM CST

Support? You mean like those under-wire-thingy bras?
Superunknown is not running for Congress here, she doesn't need anybody's support!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 12:38 AM CST

Is anybody having a drink, because I think the occasion merits one!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 12:39 AM CST

ex-WA resident, i can't go and ask susan, remember, i'm just making everything up- i've never met susan, everything is lies. atcually morgan, i am running for congress, didn't you know? i actually wanna be president in a few years. u didn't hear that in the news?

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 12:40 AM CST

i just asked a siomple question? why do u get so angry when people question u thatys what happens when u know so much about people. superunknown u have yet to comment on the car and where he lives? morgan please help her

Posted by changed my mind ur full of shit @ 08/07/2004 12:41 AM CST

changed my mind ur full of shit, i can't answer ur question, i haven't met chris ever, i'm making everything up, i was born a lying bitch. i'm sure morgan doesn't need to 'help' me.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 12:43 AM CST

everything morgan and i are saying is total shit. this is a site where u make up stories and we happen to be very good at it.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 12:45 AM CST

OK, Superunknown, can I be First Lady?

Look "Full of Shit", (I really like your name), people here are really nice, just get with it and stop antagonizing everyone. It's not worth it, is it? Would you give out personal info if Chris was your friend?

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 12:45 AM CST

Ex -WA resident don't let them chase u off. they have had a tendency of doing that to people who disagreed with them. Come on let we're sure u have more to tell

Posted by ur both full of shit @ 08/07/2004 12:47 AM CST

of course u can be first lady, morgan, but i thought u were gonna find a cure for all the world's diseases first, so i've heard.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 12:48 AM CST

'Come on let we're sure u have more to tell ', I'm sorry I didn't quite get that . What ?

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 12:50 AM CST

oh so now u know what we do to? we have 'tendencies' of doing that to people. how would u know? everything here is shit, nothing we are saying is true. u said so urself. look, u just need to go back into that small, dark hole that u crept from.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 12:52 AM CST

Really? Then that was pretty cold posting on his mothers site. Morgan you posted something about unknown Vicky to be more believable. If this could be read by his family superunknown should be as considerate.

Posted by ex-WA resident @ 08/07/2004 12:52 AM CST

I just want to be first lady, no.. I want to be queen,... no.... I want to be EMPRESS... yes... that's it... I want to be EMPRESSS....

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 12:52 AM CST

Before you jump on me I meant UNKNOWN ABOUT

Posted by ex-WA resident @ 08/07/2004 12:54 AM CST

as the queen of the universe, ur telling us to be considerate? god, u must be joking...

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 12:54 AM CST

I didnt ask for an exact address i just asked where? Antagonizing please i would never want to be that way im really nice too i promise

Posted by both full of shit @ 08/07/2004 12:54 AM CST

Just to let you know, I live on Cornell road, I'm not shitting you... I really do! If I figure out how, I'll post the picture of the road sign!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 12:55 AM CST

No I'm saying you should be as considerate as Morgan

Posted by ex-WA resident @ 08/07/2004 12:55 AM CST

I resent that, I'm not considerate!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 12:56 AM CST

What the fuck is going on? Have we ALL lost our minds?

I really do live on Cornell road though!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 12:57 AM CST

both full of shit, oh yes, i can see that ur really nice, ur absolutely charming

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 12:58 AM CST

Just for the record: I don't think that posting in Karen's website was cold. I think it took a lot of courage, and I can't thank the person who did it enough!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 01:00 AM CST

i said im sure u have more to tell- we really believe u please tell us more. good point Ex WA resident come to think of it morgan for someone whos so concerned about Chris's wellbeing u sure didn't give a shit when u posted his wife's address on the internet- u actually do sound like a very nice person i wish u were a friend of mine

Posted by both full of shit @ 08/07/2004 01:00 AM CST

i have lost my mind, i know no-one, no-one at all so get off my ass!

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 01:01 AM CST

What was I supposed to give a shit about? I don't like Vicky, you nitwit, and I never said I do! I want her to be held accountable for what she has done!
This is really dumb, look if you want to talk, that's great. Let's stop bashing each other and just talk!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 01:04 AM CST

aww, morgan, did u her that? the person who says we're full of shit wants to be ur friend, isn't that lovely?

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 01:04 AM CST

that's great that u live on cornell road but neither of u can asnswer where Chris or fris to some of us who r close to him -lives.

Posted by both full of shit @ 08/07/2004 01:04 AM CST

Nobody knows where Chris lives, nobody. We are all at a loss! Sigh....!
If I'm full of shit, would that make me a diaper genie?

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 01:07 AM CST

It was only cold if you were both lying. I believe Morgan because shit like body hair trouble is not published. I want to believe superunknown but all shes said I can find published or online at other websites. Was just trying to give her a question to answer that isnt published and she can get the answer from Susan very easily

Posted by ex-WA resident @ 08/07/2004 01:07 AM CST

should i answer? have u ever thought chris doesn't want people to know? ok, fuck that, wanna know where chris is? he's in the heart of l.a renting a condo and caring for his heavily pregnant wife, happy?

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 01:08 AM CST

Superunknown, I believe you, for whatever its worh, I believe everything you are saying!!!
I don't see what she can gain by lying. Really, what is she going to get from it?

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 01:11 AM CST

WORTH, damn it WORTH.
My spelling sucks!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 01:13 AM CST

Like the groupies earlier people can do things for reasons you don't undersand. Im not saying she is, but what if superunknown was a pathological liar or was rejected by Chris and this is petty revenge. How would you be able to tell?

Posted by ex-WA resident @ 08/07/2004 01:16 AM CST

is that home what he calls home?

Posted by both full of shit @ 08/07/2004 01:19 AM CST

rejected by chris? what the fuck are you talking about? we never dated! revenge for what?! revenge my ass...

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 01:19 AM CST

answer that and yes u have made me very happy

Posted by both full of shit @ 08/07/2004 01:20 AM CST

I wouldn't be able to tell, but I would give her the benefit of the doubt, out of respect. Which is what I hope people would give me. You get what you give!
How can I know anything about anybody, I have to trust sometime, I think she tells the truth! I like her!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 01:21 AM CST

no, that's not where chris calls home, he still considers seattle his home

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 01:22 AM CST

Read it again. I said "I'm not saying she is" before I wrote that. Meaning I am not accusing you of that. I am using that as a hypothetical situation. In other words if someone like that was out in the world and found this site and started posting, how would you be able to tell they were lying?

Posted by ex-WA resident @ 08/07/2004 01:22 AM CST

Superunknown, I think this is getting old. Let's move on, shall we? We really should meet1 You sound like a kewl chik!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 01:24 AM CST

what ever dudes, thanks morgan, ur cool too! believe what ever the hell u want, it's late here and i have to sign off for tonite. goodnite morgan.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 01:25 AM CST

Goodnight!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 01:26 AM CST

my little girl is here, can't sleep, she said, 'hi to mommy's friend', i have to put here to bed, goodnite morgan.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 01:27 AM CST

She does seem nice and I would be offended by people calling me a liar too. But I never called her a liar. I just don't believe yet. My posts have been trying to explain why I asked her to answer my original question. Its hard to find a questions to ask that don't give away personal info and aren't published

Posted by ex-WA resident @ 08/07/2004 01:27 AM CST

WRONG ANSWER!!! But u very well might be friend of Susan's- did she tell u he's moving back into the Seattle house and she's moving out- guess u'll be visiting Vicky and fris there soon- u guys make me laugh sweet dreams

Posted by so full of it @ 08/07/2004 01:30 AM CST

Goodnight, superunknown!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 01:36 AM CST

It may be old but it's still a valid question. superunknown ask Susan over the next few days. I can get the prior owners to send me some paperwork with Susan and Chriss signatures to validate the date

Posted by ex-WA resident @ 08/07/2004 01:37 AM CST

JUST FOR THE THE RECORD, he's not moving anywhere but Paris, say what you will but, have you forgotten Vicky? hello?

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 01:37 AM CST

What have you guys got against 'Superunknown'? Except for you Morgan, I am friends with 'Superunknown' (ever since College). She is telling the truth. I have met Chris and his ex-wife a number of times through 'Superunknown'. I haven't seen Chris since 2001 but she has. I am not friends with him, I haven't met him enough to say he's a friend but he sure is 'Superunknown's friend. He's a nice guy, 'Superunknown' doesn't lie. If you want, break into her house, she has plenty of photos of her with him and her other fmaous friends. Be easy on her guys, I can tell you, she's not lying.

Posted by Willow @ 08/07/2004 03:40 AM CST

I heard of this website through her. She told me how alot of people doubt her but at the end of the day, she doesn't really care, she knows him so what has she got to gain from lying, nothing. Which is why she's not lying. Hi 'Superunknown', I'll talk to you soon. (I'm sorry but when you told me about this, I wanted to convince people).

Posted by Willow @ 08/07/2004 03:44 AM CST

I have nothing aginst her. I just want her to provide a month and a year that Susan can easily give her. Simple.

Posted by ex-WA resident @ 08/07/2004 10:00 AM CST

Wow, I go to bed and all THIS happens.

To all the people who've been harassing Superunknown, you guys really should stop. Despite the fact that you're asking nicely, asking her a ton of questions because she knows Chris is pointless. If you don't believe her, then how hard is it to click the little 'x' on the corner of the site and not come back?

You don't have to believe anybody if you don't want to, but when people like Morgan and Superunknown post something, I believe it because I have no reason not to. It's not like what they're saying is so crazy I might wonder if they're making it up or not.
Morgan, Superunknown, next time people ask annoying questions like that, just ignore 'em, they'll stop eventually.

~Glorified

Posted by glorifiedg @ 08/07/2004 10:11 AM CST

Listen up, everyone. This is Suzie, the owner of Fluttergirl.com. I'm glad y'all are enjoying this little forum, but enough with the abuse. There will be no more "u r full of shit" posts. There will also be NO posting just to waste space. No "A" "B" "C" "Look at me, I'm a fucking moron with too much spare time on my hands!" posts. I've already deleted like 10 comments and banned 2 people from posting this morning.

I don't care what y'all chat about... Chris' personal life, his significant other's personal life, or Kim Thayil's beard. (He still has the beard, right?) If you're offended by any of these topics of conversation, don't bother to post your disgust. Just suck it up and move along to another website. And don't give me any of that "free speech" crap. I'm all for free speech, but this is a privately owned website. I have opened it to comments and I have the power to delete those comments and ban people who annoy me. And I have no qualms about deleting and banning. Believe it.

Play nice with each other, please.

Posted by Suzie, owner of this website @ 08/07/2004 11:11 AM CST

You are totally right, Suzie. I think we got carried away last night. On behalf of Superunknown and myself, we meant no harm, we were just playing.
Sorry about the mess!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/07/2004 12:06 PM CST

No worries, Morgan. You and Superunknown are fine. I get a kick out of reading your posts. :) I just don't like the hecklers.

Posted by Suzie @ 08/07/2004 12:21 PM CST

Superunknown, I did not mean to upset you by my question.

Posted by Colleen @ 08/07/2004 07:51 PM CST

It's ok guys, thankyou Suzie. You guys are right, I don't have to answer anything if I don't want to. and that's what I'm gonna do from now on, i won't answer questions that i don't wanna answer. enough with the abuse already.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/07/2004 10:40 PM CST

I have read the last few posts and man, it does get ugly around here. I just wanted to say that I think Morgan and Superunknown are cool, and they seem like strong women who care about other's wellbeing. It's awesome that you know Chris superunknown, he sounds like an excellent guy. I have the fan's perspective which almost everyone here are and I wish I knew him as a friend coz he sounds excellent, so do Susan and Lily. If you can answer this superunknown, that would be great but if you can't that's ok. Is Lily excited about the arrival of Chris child or does she feel awkward?

Morgan I'm sorry that I don't have anything nice to say about Vicky but I commend you on being who you really are and not fake just because of Vicky's new found fame. Good luck with everthing Superunknown and Morgan :)

Posted by Ally @ 08/08/2004 04:03 AM CST

Ally, thanks, that was a nice thing of you to say. Usually, it's really nice around here, the other night was just a fluke, I hope!

Hi everybody, how's your weekend been so far? Mine stinks, I'm sick. It's the middle of summer and I have the flu! Go figure!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/08/2004 02:51 PM CST

aww, morgan, i hope u get well soon. besides that, everything ok?

thankyou ally, that was a nice thing to say. i will answer your question. lily is looking forward to the birth of the baby. she knows that she won't have any sister or brothers from HER mommy and daddy and since she's a child, she knows the baby is her little brother but not mommy's son. she's a smart child.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/09/2004 01:24 AM CST

Everything else is fine. I'm hoping its just a cold instead of the flu.

I read what you said about Lily. She sounds very smart and I'm glad that she's looking forward to the baby, but still, thinking about her made me a little sad. Having your parents separate at such a young age has to be hard on a child. Especially if she has a hard time with the 'new' step parent.

Posted by Morgan @ 08/09/2004 02:28 AM CST

Thankyou Superunknown. Lily sounds like a treasure who Chris is lucky to have as a child. Although Chris and Susan seem to of had hard times, it looks like they bought up a smart, sweet and beautiful little girl. I wish them all the happiness and also to you Superunknown and Morgan. Thankyou.

Posted by Ally @ 08/09/2004 06:27 AM CST

Superunknown, remember when I told you that she might interfere between him and AS? 'Somebody' today said that Chris threatened to quit the band, 'someone', guess who?, has problem with Tom's other band. Did you hear anything about this? I hope this is BS.

Posted by Morgan @ 08/09/2004 03:33 PM CST

I have a sinking feeling in my stomach that this is not BS at all. She likes to insigate and stir up trouble. I don't know how much stuff the rest of the AS guys are going to put up with before they end up arguing with each other. She's already ruined someone's career before..., I guess with Vicky once is never enough. Damn and more damn!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/09/2004 04:00 PM CST

I saw that someone posted something about that over at the official CC forum, wonder where they heard it or "who" is doing the posting? figured it was just someone trying to start some rumours...that happens a lot over there..lol

Posted by uglytruth @ 08/09/2004 05:24 PM CST

Maybe this is a odd request, but could you post the link? Thanks

Posted by Morgan @ 08/09/2004 06:52 PM CST

Never mind, got it on me own.

Just for the record, I don't know about the post or who the person is, or whatever so if you were insinuating anything... don't. maybe I'm still touchy about the other night but I'm not taking s... from anybody else again, EVER

Posted by Morgan @ 08/09/2004 07:10 PM CST

Sorry, punched the ENTER button too hard. I guess I'm still mad about the other night.
But I'm really not going to be harassed again.
Suzie if you can... pls delete the repeated posts, thanks and sorry again!

Posted by morgan @ 08/09/2004 07:14 PM CST

Geez! calm down I wasn't" insinuating" anything about anyone here! I have no reason to think that anyone would make up lies..I tend to believe all you say about Vicky, from the first I had a bad feeling about her...felt like somethin' wasn't right. Well I don't blame you for being pissed off, now that I have gone back and read some of the other comments, didn't mean any harm to anyone here..sorry.

Posted by uglytruth @ 08/09/2004 07:27 PM CST

What I said doesn't necessary apply to you and if I was nasty to you unfairly then I'm sorry, but as you read we've been hassled alot lately. The worse is that it doesn't make any sense, as I've said before, I have nothing to gain by posting here.

But anyhow, I don't know who the person is, it's not the same person who told me this today. Believe me, I just asked and she promised she has never posted anything about Chris or "her" for that matter.

If you don't mind my asking, what made you have a bad feeling about her?

Posted by Morgan @ 08/09/2004 07:43 PM CST

it sounds crazy, cause I don't know the girl personally but just hearing from the beginning all the "details" of the engagement, ring, parties, supermodels, etc, etc. didn't seem like the kind of circles Chris would feel comfortable hanging with...always seemed so down to earth and private and now all that's changed. It just doesn't all fit, like something wasn't right..just a gut feeling..

Posted by uglytruth @ 08/09/2004 09:35 PM CST

oh btw, what I was insinuating with my first post was that the instigator over at the other forum was possible vicky starting rumours - "leaking" information so characteristic of PR people..actually the poster had only that ONE post and never returned to post any replies. this also came to mind..the username is "21 or Bust" wonder if her due date is the 21st? that's just my curious imagination at work, but you never know right?

Posted by uglytruth @ 08/09/2004 09:50 PM CST

Based on what I know of her, she would never post herself, not now, but she might get someone else to do it for her. You might be onto something though, I didn't even think about it but you might really be onto something here. I remember one huge 'misunderstanding' where she said something in a room full of people about their business and Chris was really annoyed. He actually got up and left. Since then I haven't heard her make any more 'public' statements but she still talks about their private lives, how else would I know so much about it? I mean think about it, I know stuff about her because I've known her for years, but what I know about them as a couple, aside from what I have witnessed, I heard from her or her friends.

The comment that Chris made about Tom's "election crusade" doesn't sound too nice, does it? From what I know of him, it doesn't sound like Chris at all.

Whoever posted wants to detract attention from the real issue and blame Tom for whatever is going on. Nobody would blame Vicky if the guys split because Tom is too busy with his 'other band' and doesn't have time for Chris and the rest of the guys. It's just the perfect scapegoat excuse. Sooo like her!

Again, I'm sorry for giving you a hard time. That wasn't cool!
I'm usually not this bitchy, must be the flu!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/09/2004 10:12 PM CST

No need for apologies..it's cool! yep I was thinking the same thing, the perfect scapegoat is right! doesn't sound like Chris at all...but from what I've read here so far..sounds like her.

Posted by uglytruth @ 08/09/2004 10:18 PM CST

gonna say nite nite..hope you get better soon Morgan

Posted by uglytruth @ 08/09/2004 10:30 PM CST

Superunknow, are you still around? If you are, I want to read what you think of all of the above! :)

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 02:35 AM CST

You're not upset about something ? I hope not but if you are we will respect your privacy..................................ok, now tell us!
will go back to respecting your silences after you tell us everything! :)

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 02:38 AM CST

wow, it's nearly 2a.m and I had to deal with a crying baby and now I can't get to sleep, what better way to kill time then go on the web!

that stuff about tom, chris doesn't have anything against tom's side project, he thinks it's wonderful! obviously, there is someone out there making things up, it may well be a very bored, rich pregnant woman, vicky. i really hope she isn't doing all this, man, she's like a fucking bad version of yoko ono, yes, i meant bad. she should really but out of that part of chris' life, how dare she break-up the band, that's horrible to both the boys and the millions of fans.

i spoke to chris last week over the phone, just a friendly hello. he seems to be doing fine and is very excited about the baby. he asked how my baby was, which is very nice of him and i think the baby will be a boy, i haven't asked the sex of the baby but chris' a little obvious.

how are u doing morgan? welcome uglytruth (i remember chris, matt, hiro and kim playing that in a gig in seattle back in 1989, memories...)

Posted by superunknown @ 08/10/2004 03:57 AM CST

So vicky is due on August 21st? And the baby is a boy? wow, It seems like all this happened so fast! I remember when I first heard about Chris being engaged to vicky, I didnt think it was true.

Posted by Colleen @ 08/10/2004 08:10 AM CST

Last rumor I heard over on that Interscope board is that Vicky isn't due this month. Even if she is, it completely screws up earlier comments about getting engaged because of the pregnancy. Think about it. The rumors about the engagement first came out last JULY and the engagement party was in OCTOBER. If they got engaged over the pregnancy in either July or October, the baby would be here by now.

I saw a comment on here earlier that harmlessly suggested all this is fiction. I wonder why that would be deleted while the obvious lies would be kept?

Posted by Wondering @ 08/10/2004 11:26 AM CST

no one really knows anything for sure except the parties directly involved: Chris & Vicky...time will tell all

Posted by uglytruth @ 08/10/2004 11:32 AM CST

I am going to be sooo polite it's going to blow our minds:
Please don't start with the 'you are all lying' thing again, if you have a problem with what we say go away to another forum. I also suggest that you go back and read each individual post carefully. Thank you for flying with Delta! Goodbye!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 11:39 AM CST

I NEVER SAID THAT THEY GOT ENGAGED BECAUSE SHE WAS PREGNANT, I SAID I DOUBT HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN MARRIED SO QUICKLY IF SHE HADN'T GOTTEN PREGNANT. She gets pregnant and quickly he files for divorce, two weeks afterwards they marry in LA and six weeks later, they marry in Paris. All of it this year, beginning with his divorce. Pls read my posts carefully before starting the whole 'you-are-lying' bit...

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 11:51 AM CST

'Wondering' have you posted here before, couldn't find another post from you, maybe you used a different name? Have you posted anywhere else by any chance?
Where exactly is the post on Interscope, pls post the link. (its just something else I can't find, I'd like to read it).
There was one comment and it was a question really, that asked if they got engaged because she was pregnant. ONE question.
Maybe you got this forum confused with another one?
Besides who cares when she got pregnant, what's it to you?
Who are you?

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 12:06 PM CST

I can't believe I'm even dignifying some of these posts with a response but you need to be aware that mistruths are being reported here. I cannot believe that someone would drag Chris's mother into this with the pretense that it is for Lily's benefit. How dare you. What are your motives? I'll spell it out for you: j-e-a-l-o-u-s-y. I haven't read anything on here that is actual "inside information" - and yes, I actually do know what is fact and fiction. Morgan, you should be ashamed of yourself and Suzy (Shroomie) I hope you won't delete this. It needs to be said.

Posted by RumorKiller @ 08/10/2004 12:44 PM CST

Morgan, I am reading carefully. More carefully than you post, it seems.

You just said, "She gets pregnant and quickly he files for divorce, two weeks afterwards they marry in LA and six weeks later, they marry in Paris. All of it this year, beginning with his divorce."

Well, I am reading carefully. Check the public records in Seattle - divorce is a matter of public record there. He filed in the fall of '03 (September, I believe). That's directly from SOMMS, BTW. You can search the archives. The engagement party was in October, Paris wedding in May, baby to come. Your math skills and attention to detail need some work.

The post on the Interscope board was some months ago by someone claiming to be Vicky's cousin. No idea if that's true, but it certainly beats your math skills.

Personally, I don't care about when the baby is due. I just care about the information that is being posted on this site and how some people are misconstruing this information as actual truth.

I do post elsewhere and know Shroom (Suzie) from SOMMS. I've read this blog longer than you've been posting.

Posted by Wondering @ 08/10/2004 01:05 PM CST

BTW, Moran - here's your link: http://www.chriscornell.com/bboard/forumname/viewtopic.asp?TopicID=1545964&pivot=14424117&topic=is%20chris%20with%20susan%20or%20vicky?%20does%20anyone%20really%20know!

Look for MetalfanUSA

Posted by Wondering @ 08/10/2004 01:16 PM CST

Oops, busted. :) Ah, SOMMS. I'll never forget sitting at the bar where Peter Cornell worked and ogling him while he made our drinks. Good times!

Ok, here's the deal. I won't delete any more posts as long as they don't degenerate into a bunch of name-calling. Fair enough?

Posted by Suzie @ 08/10/2004 01:17 PM CST

I'm not going to check anybody's record, because I don't care and besides it's been done and the version I had was that he filed in King County Court beginnig this year. I was also told that his divorce from Susan was granted early this year. I don't care when he filed or when he got divorced or whatever...

I never claimed that she was pregnant in October, that's what I meant about reading my posts, I even admitted to making a mistake by omitting the month of May.

I don't see how attacking me or my math skills is going to make the truth clearer but go ahead! If putting me down makes you feel good go ahead, i don't know you from Adam, so yes, I'm lying and yes my math suchs and yes, go ahead and fill in the blanks...

RumorKiller what am I supposed to be ashamed of? What am I jealous of? I barely know Chris and unless you are implying that I want Vicky for myself, you must be mistaken or something! Again, go ahead...
Prove am lying, is all I can say. I think that's fair!

I solemnly vow to work on my math skills and my attention to detail.

Just for the record she was visibly pregnant by April, and I'm not the one saying this. Unless as I said before, there is an international conspiracy to bring Vicky down. Myself being the ring leader and ordering people to say what I want.
Exactly, what do I get from making this stuff up?

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 02:59 PM CST

I said the end of August, MetalfanUSA says September, why don't we wait and see?

What makes what this person say more believable than what I say?

Besides do you really think that her cousin will post in an AS forum?
You could have disagreed with me without calling me a liar. Actually it would have been great to have someone new to talk with. You could have corrected me on the dates without picking a fight and attacking my 'skills'.

I never said I checked on the dates myself but I believe the person who says she did. Why shouldn't I?

RumorKiller am assuming you also know Vicky, is her cousin a AS fan? Was any member of her family a fan before January '03?

Have we per chance met? Of course not, I'm lying!

I apologize to everyone for my CLEAR attempt to mislead and lie about all of this stuff.

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 03:14 PM CST

Morgan we don't know what you get from making this stuff up,but let me ask you a question what do you get from posting this stuff if you can see people don't believe you, give it up.the more you say the more people will doubt you,and as a result of this you will get hurt,get attacked.don't make an effort for people that don't believe you.

Posted by no name @ 08/10/2004 03:33 PM CST

You do understand that "visibly pregnant by April" could be the slightest little bulge? With her frame, she could have been showing even within the first trimester. I fail to see what's so suspicious about moving up a wedding ceremony that was already in the planning stages. What would you think is "visibly pregnant?" If it's 5 - 6 months, then, again, she's have delivered by now. I don't have to prove anyone wrong on that - the baby's birth date will. There is a 50/50 chance on the sex the Superunknown proposes. Yeah, the ultrasound was wrong. Got it already.

It's also pretty funny that remarks I've made to others, Morgan has vehemently defended not saying: a sure sign of some kind of guilty conscience.

"I'm not going to check anybody's record, because I don't care..."

Then why continue?

No, you didn't say she was pregnant in October. But what was insinuated on this board is that she was pregnant by another man, who she was seeing until the engagement. Logically, that would have meant that she had to be pregnant by the time of the engagement party, last October. Therefore, all that crap about the baby not being Chris' because she was two-timing with this guy is pure fiction.

Quite a few people have posted on several boards about having seen Chris, Vicky, and Lily together - very happily together - in Seattle at one time or another. The innuendo that Lily is unhappy with Vicky is unfounded. As RumorKiller said, it's unconscionable that this has been taken so far to the extreme that someone felt compelled to post it on Chris' mother's guestbook. How would you like to read every rumor about your family? I'm sure Karen is a smart enough woman to know the situation between her son, daughter-in-law, and granddaughter that she doesn't need input from Suzie's blog!

To everyone - There have been many people who write on the internet claiming to know Chris or people around him. I can only assume these people need attention desparately. I can't fathom any other reason for blasting people who even they claim to hardly know. Just about everyone who really is close with or even has a passing friendship (enough to call or receive phone call from the guy) with Chris would make it a point NOT to post and invade his privacy.

Posted by wondering @ 08/10/2004 03:45 PM CST

i believe morgan! she's got no reason to lie.

Posted by nevernamed @ 08/10/2004 03:47 PM CST

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!

One thing though, you can't prove I'm lying and you can't prove you are telling the truth!
It goes both ways. But you are right except for the getting hurt part, I don't see how, but ...

Besides, the more people doubt me means the more people are reading this stuff and that was my whole point. You are actually helping me posting against what I say!!!

I should thank you!

Give it time. We'll discuss this again, maybe, in six months...

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 03:52 PM CST

No sweetie, nobody said she stopped seeing him after the engagement.

I never claimed to be Chris' friend. I have NEVER met Lily and I have never seen Vicky with her.

Guilty conscience, of what? You haven't answered that once. Your accusations are vague.
Do you know Chris yourself, do you know Vicky, you must if you have seen the ultrasound. How was Vicky's recent visit to the ER?

Seriously, let me ask you this, just for the sake of argument; what if, and I mean IF, I'm telling the truth. Think about it? Don't tell me you are not going to think about it because you know the truth, blah, blah, bah... Just think about it!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 04:02 PM CST

By the way, we post anonymously, how do we get that attention if nobody knows who we are. What happens if there is a power outage and we can't get on the net. Do we have attention deprivation withdrawls?
Just the thought makes me anxious...

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 04:06 PM CST

'You do understand that "visibly pregnant by April" could be the slightest little bulge? With her frame, she could have been showing even within the first trimester'
'Quite a few people have posted on several boards about having seen Chris, Vicky, and Lily together - very happily together - in Seattle at one time or another.'

You do understand that the same logic applies here, right?

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 04:13 PM CST

You don't know these people do you?, or you wouldn't need to post what other people saw; 'Quite a few people have posted on several boards about having seen Chris, Vicky, and Lily together - very happily together - in Seattle at one time or another.'
You would know first hand.
Whatever!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 04:18 PM CST

Guilty conscience: of passing off fiction to some blog where people will really believe it's true. Since you reply to posts to or about other people it's either a guilty conscience or paranoia. Which is worse, I don't know.

"Do you know Chris yourself, do you know Vicky, you must if you have seen the ultrasound..."

Where did that come from? Now look who isn't reading other people's posts. LOL I don't see anything anywhere about an ultrasound...

About dumping the boyfriend: May I remind you, "SOME ACTOR/MODEL, GABRIEL SOMETHING OR OTHER, THERE WERE PICTURES OF HER WITH BOTH GUYS. AS SOON AS SHE WAS ENGAGED TO CORNELL SHE DUMPED HER BOYFRIEND AND WAS PREGNANT ALL AT THE SAME TIME, BUSY GIRL!!!
Yup - posted by Morgan. You don't even remember what you previously posted. That's a sign of a pathalogical liar, you know. Not only did you suggest that the baby isn't Chris' you suggested that she was pregnant at the time of the engagement (October), which you recently said you'd never said.

Again, I never said you met Chris, Vicky or Lily. But Superunknown did. Now, unless you're also Superunknown, there was no reason to post about that.

While we post anonymously, someone can still get a personal thrill out of others believing them. An ego boost if you will. Note I've been talking about generalities and no specific person. Defending this as being about you is an admission that you've done what has been said. Got that?

What if you're right? Then you've invaded their privacy. It doesn't matter that he's a star - things are being said about an innocent child and an unborn bably. And that's just not right either. Your karma is screwed either way - either you've misled people and victimized someone you have already said you don't know, or you've invaded someone's privacy. The karma of those acts will come back to you either way.

However, I don't know you and I don't care about you. What I care about are the innocent people around here who believe the crap that has been posted by several people.

Posted by Wondering @ 08/10/2004 04:32 PM CST

'There is a 50/50 chance on the sex the Superunknown proposes. Yeah, the ultrasound was wrong. Got it already.' Hugh, am sorry, but it's still there in your post? Am I the only one who can read it?Geez!

AS SOON AS SHE WAS ENGAGED TO CORNELL SHE DUMPED HER BOYFRIEND AND WAS PREGNANT ALL AT THE SAME TIME, BUSY GIRL!!! You are right, this was confusing and misleading. I should have been more specific and given dates and time frame. I rounded everything up and gave a condensed version if things. And yes, it could have been misleading. You are definitely right about that, but wouldn't that have been a TOTAL invasion of privacy and besides wouldn't I have given myself away?

"I can't fathom any other reason for blasting people who even they claim to hardly know', hugh?

And no I'm not Superunknown, that's actually pretty funny!!!!

'What if you're right? Then you've invaded their privacy. It doesn't matter that he's a star - things are being said about an innocent child and an unborn bably. And that's just not right either. Your karma is screwed either way - either you've misled people and victimized someone you have already said you don't know, or you've invaded someone's privacy.'; well... which one is it, and why are you so driven?
Why didn't you just say that 'what you care about are the innocent people around here who believe the crap that has been posted by several people.'

And also, are you saying that the people in this forum are stupid and believe the first sack of shit anyone tries to sell them?
Everybody here is capable of making their own decisions on what to believe, nobody is being forced!

Maybe you think this is about bashing Chris but it's not. Vicky is not a reflection on him at all!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 04:52 PM CST

I applaud you diversionary tactics, you are very, very good!
What you accuse me of regarding my posts can be applied to yours as well.
As I said, people are free to believe what they choose. There is a big difference between innocence and blind stupidity. I wonder how you are going to turn this one around on me! Can't wait to read it!!!

Maybe your posts were misleading as well and some of the things you said I felt were aimed at me?

Why would you say I'm Superunknown? I wonder...
Things that make you go 'what the f...?'

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 05:00 PM CST

oh and by the way, go back and read what I posted, DON'T BE LIKE ME, USE YOUR ATTENTION TO DETAIL CAPABILITIES! READ, READ, READ...!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 05:06 PM CST

Just for those who don't want to go back. I never said 'AS SOON AS SHE WAS ENGAGED TO CORNELL SHE DUMPED HER BOYFRIEND AND WAS PREGNANT ALL AT THE SAME TIME, BUSY GIRL!!! I was quoting and article I read. And it really very clear! I say it's an article. But I should have clarified things better and given a more exact time frame instead of lumping everything in one big mess.
My point is before you accuse people of being liars, patholigical or otherwise, you have to be 100% sure of what you are saying. And not change stories every time something you said doesn't hold.
I'm sorry but you've just run around in circles and it has whittled down to nothing. Post away, go ahead, give people something to sink their teeth inot. That's a girl!
Congratulations on bashing someone you don't know just for the hell of it. Yes, I know... you've said all before!

We do have something in common though, neither of us cares for the other!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 05:20 PM CST

You know what really sucks about this? Is that someday little Lillian is going to learn to read, and someday she will get on the net, and there is that chance that she will somehow read this. Whether it's all true or not, she will be reading about herself and her father, her stepmother and her mother, and it's going to hurt. But I guess that's just the price that innocent children of celebrities have to pay, isn't it?

Oh and morgan, if Vicky's family is as wealthy as you say they are, then I would be pretty paranoid if I was you. Libel suits are a bitch...

Posted by Reality Bomb @ 08/10/2004 05:24 PM CST

Morgan stated: "I never claimed to be Chris' friend".

That's right, you aren't. I wish I could come right out and point out the mistruths with the actual facts but that would make me no better than you. I see lots of laughable stories about Chris but have never felt compelled to defend him or his family. I guess you caught me on a good day. What are you getting from this? Some kind of perverse thrill I guess. I just hate to see people believing it and worse that someone felt the need to notify his mother that Lily's future is in some kind of danger. Think about the repercussions of what you say before you do someone some real harm. This is not soley directed at you Morgan but at anyone who feels the need to slag someone in a public forum.

Posted by RumorKiller @ 08/10/2004 05:26 PM CST

DID YOU JUST THREATEN ME WITH A LIBEL SUIT? ARE YOU SERIOUS? DON'T THREATEN PEOPLE AND DON'T PUT IT WRITTING, FOR PETE'S SAKE. what would I get sued for, being nuts and lying?

I see you point about Lily though, and you are right!

Enough said.

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 05:35 PM CST

I take everything back, I have lied about everything I have said, I don't know any of these people. I made it all up. I am jealous and I get a thrill out of posting in this site and having people believe what I say. Good enough?

My sincerest apologies! Sorry! Really!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 05:41 PM CST

No, I didn't just threaten you with anything. I'm not Vicky's family.

Thank you for seeing my point about Lily.

Posted by Reality Bomb @ 08/10/2004 05:44 PM CST

Suzie, when you read this, PLEASE delete all of my posts. Reality Bomb is totally right, no child deserves to read this stuff, I have to say that I didn't think about the repercussions of what of my posts might have on Lily. For this lack of brains and sensibility I am truly sorry. I know this will be hard to believe and can't say that I blame anyone for not believing me but I never meant Lily any harm.
Pease delete everything and everybody stop talking about it. If Lily reads this one day, or, God forbid, the other child, they will be heartbroken, so just erase it and forget it. Hopefully they will never hear of it!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 05:58 PM CST

"the ultrasound was wrong. I get it." That's the excuse that would be used if the baby turns out to be a girl. I never said I'd seen it or it is wrong now. Following along are we?

Since you posted about things that I said about Superunknown, how am I to know otherwise? You seemed to defend yourself against what I said about her. Now that's funny.

As for the karma remarks - "Which one is it?" Either one, depending upon if you are right or if you are wrong. Either way - your karma is toast.

I'm no more "driven" than you are. In fact, I showed quite a bit of restraint in not posting until now, while your innuendos flew over this blog. I let it go...until someone got so upset about Lily that they involved his mom. How sick is all that? Sick and hurtful.

I'm not saying people here are unintelligent. I'm saying that you're trying (very hard) to prove that you are right. You and others are giving the impression that you know things, when you don't. If I've planted a seed of doubt in one person who has come on here and said, "I believe Morgan" then I've done what I've set out to do.

Vicky isn't here to defend herself. I know her about as much as you do (which I believe you don't). Therefore, I have the right to defend her.

You go on about whether I know them or not. Well, honey, the point is that you don't! Nice tactic trying to push it back on me, but it doesn't work. I've never said anything to assume I know them. Nothing you've said comes anywhere near proving that you know any of them, including Vicky.

Posted by Wondering @ 08/10/2004 06:53 PM CST

Wow - a lot happened while I was typing away...

Shroom - maybe you want to archive this just in case someone connected to Vicky or Chris needs it in that libel case that was mentioned.

Posted by Wondering @ 08/10/2004 06:56 PM CST

Morgan, where did you see the article about Vicky and some otherguy ?You said they also showed pictures. where are these so called pictures. For someone who seems so obsessed with Vicky you must have this to show us. If there is no online post then give me the name of the magazine and what month it is in. You seem to be the only one to have seen this and unlike you I am French.

Posted by claire @ 08/10/2004 07:00 PM CST

Leave it alone ALREADY! You won, you all did!
I admitted to lying and making everything up, so why continue to stirr things up? YOU WON!
Take a bow and do a victory lap around the block!
It's all just lies so nothing is going to happen to these people and nothing will change in their lives. Nothing we say, and I mean all of us, including you, will change things. None of us knows them and nothing we say has any effect over them, does it? Except for what Reality Bomb said about Lily. That makes all the difference, so just leave be!
Besides, those who know them, if they were to read this, they would know it's all lies, I've admitted to lying so just leave well enough alone.

If this is about having the last word, you can have the entire English lexicon; YOU WON!!!!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 07:08 PM CST

You can't sue someone for lying on the internet or anywhere else for that matter, its called freedom of speech, remember Larry Flynt?

Claire I don't have the name of the website and I don't have the name of the magazine because I made it all up. I'm not even French!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/10/2004 07:13 PM CST

You may not have noticed, but I was typing my reply as your confession and request to strike the evidence came up.

Since I'm here explaining, though...it's slander as well as libel.

The Internet is international. Larry Flynt was tried in the US. There are no such freedoms in many other countries. I know that magazines have lost cases to celebrities after the Larry Flynt case.

With that - back to lurking.

Posted by Wondering @ 08/10/2004 07:37 PM CST

Morgan, why do you only say you feel bad for Lily what about the other baby who you say Chris isn't the daddy. You also said this is not a reflection onChris you call one of his children a test tube baby/pipette, the other one illegitimate, his wife a ho- are you kidding? You are obviously infatuated with Chris or something.And since you have alrady said so much why don't you provide the article w ith the photo?

Posted by claire @ 08/10/2004 07:53 PM CST

Claire - Lily IS a test tube baby. Chris admitted that in an interview last year. I can look it up for you if you want.

In the meantime, Morgan is right about one thing - it is time to leave all of this alone. She's admitted wrongdoing, and it's over.

Enough from all of us, I'd say.

Posted by Wondering @ 08/10/2004 08:10 PM CST

I know you are reading this, I am not answering the phone. Stop calling.
Manuel Sanchez from this post on, I do not know you, leave it be. Do what you must but dejame en paz! Je te connais pas! Me entiendes? I know nothing and will say nothing.
A bien tot!

Posted by m @ 08/10/2004 10:43 PM CST

Stop, am asking you to please leave me alone. Ive turned off my phone, as you can tell, don't make me change the number. Telecom is a pain... but I will change it if you persist. It goes for all of you!
Cette fois-ci you are on your own. Je ne savais pas que c'etait aussi mauvais pour... moi, pour moi damn you, it sucks for me. I don't deserve it. I don't care for u. It serves both of you right, a ella x puerca y zorra y a ti x pendejo! Lee cabron lo que esta gente aqui ha dicho! A mi, come-mierda, a mi!!!! yes , I am encabronada, you would be too, you have two heads and no brains in either of them. Pull your head out of your rear end and stand up to things. This is your mess anyway. Be a man!
I won't answer and I don't know you. Al carajo to' el mundo!

Posted by m @ 08/10/2004 11:15 PM CST

wow, wow, wow all this bashing needs to stop. look people, there was so much writing i dunno who's written what. lily can actually read now, she's a very smart girl. if she was ever on the web, she wouldn't type her name into a search engine, never, she'd go to other websites that interest her, and even though she's at an early stage, she's not the least interested in this stuff. if anyone of u have a question, don't direct it to morgan, she doesn't deserve that. ask me, i don't give a shit...

Posted by superunknown @ 08/11/2004 02:10 AM CST

Listen superunknown, I was waiting for you. This got way out of line, they have threatened me with libel and a slandering suit?
I quote;' You may not have noticed, but I was typing my reply as your confession and request to strike the evidence came up.' reqest to strike the evidence, what evidence?

whoah... these people are on something funky. Evidence? What evidence?
It got really bad and they freaked me out, I actually spoke to the attorney that leaves around here.. And, yes, he is a real one, Ivy League graduate as a matter of fact, to look at what was being posted. He snorted so hard I think stuff shot out his nose. He couldn't stop laughing. He said we all need to get a date. He says that whatever these women claim as evidence is pure hear say and wouldn't get passed the attorney's desk. Libel and slander are the hardest cases to maintain because they loose credibilty right away and get thrown out of court with a warning no to waste the court's time again. He said this thing sounded like your classical witch hunt, a couple of people read something they don't like and they set up on a mission to bring the evil doer down, they are called 'gooddoers' its harmless unless it turns into harassment or threats because then the table turns and things get ugly and laws apply to everyone involved. The harassment and the threats, implied or otherwise have to stop, period.

I swear to you I never thougth about how Lily would feel if she read this stuff, I can only imagine what I would feel if I was her and I think I would hate what was said, it would hurt too much. I figured by the time she read any of it, if she reads it, things would so different she would be used to the whole thing by then.. I didn't think about her reading it now and getting hurt because of things I've said. I don't want that resposability.
Look superunknown, I've said this before and I will say it agan, I totally believe you I know you are telling th truth. So if Lily does read this stuff, you say she won't but just in case, tell her it a pack of lies. All of it.Tell her I'm sorry I didn't mean to hurt her of her mother. Tell her I made the whole thing up. OK?
They can't ask you anyway because I'm whos head thy want. I feel like Alice; ''off with me head"

Posted by Morgan @ 08/11/2004 03:34 AM CST

Listen superunknown, I was waiting for you. This got way out of line, they have threatened me with libel and a slandering suit?
I quote;' You may not have noticed, but I was typing my reply as your confession and request to strike the evidence came up.' reqest to strike the evidence, what evidence?

whoah... these people are on something funky. Evidence? What evidence?
It got really bad and they freaked me out, I actually spoke to the attorney that leaves around here.. And, yes, he is a real one, Ivy League graduate as a matter of fact, to look at what was being posted. He snorted so hard I think stuff shot out his nose. He couldn't stop laughing. He said we all need to get a date. He says that whatever these women claim as evidence is pure hear say and wouldn't get passed the attorney's desk. Libel and slander are the hardest cases to maintain because they loose credibilty right away and get thrown out of court with a warning no to waste the court's time again. He said this thing sounded like your classical witch hunt, a couple of people read something they don't like and they set up on a mission to bring the evil doer down, they are called 'gooddoers' its harmless unless it turns into harassment or threats because then the table turns and things get ugly and laws apply to everyone involved. The harassment and the threats, implied or otherwise have to stop, period.

I swear to you I never thougth about how Lily would feel if she read this stuff, I can only imagine what I would feel if I was her and I think I would hate what was said, it would hurt too much. I figured by the time she read any of it, if she reads it, things would so different she would be used to the whole thing by then.. I didn't think about her reading it now and getting hurt because of things I've said. I don't want that resposability.
Look superunknown, I've said this before and I will say it agan, I totally believe you I know you are telling th truth. So if Lily does read this stuff, you say she won't but just in case, tell her it a pack of lies. All of it.Tell her I'm sorry I didn't mean to hurt her of her mother. Tell her I made the whole thing up. OK?

They can't ask you anyway because I'm whos head they want. I feel like Alice; ''off with me head"

Posted by Morgan @ 08/11/2004 03:35 AM CST

stupid double post

Posted by Morgan @ 08/11/2004 03:36 AM CST

I got accused of being you, I don't think you woud enjoy such experience!

Posted by morgan @ 08/11/2004 03:41 AM CST

morgan, ignore the crap. let's just get on with things, shall we? we're definately not the same person but u seem like a wonderful person anyway. ignore all this stuff, do u really care what others are saying at the end of the day? i sure don't.

i'm just really angry that people are coming into my friends' lives and fucking it up, it's not fair. at the end, they come crying to us and we give help and sympathy while assholes like vicky just laugh about it. it's a serious situation for those of us who are involved and no-one here, except u morgan, knows what that feels like - publically.

Posted by superunknown @ 08/11/2004 07:13 AM CST

No , I don't care what others say but I do care about what a small kid might feel, especially if its something I said.
Its a matter of time. I'm lying so nothing will happen. Just give it time...

Everything's perfect and everybody lives happily ever after. Except for me because my Karma is dead! I killed it, I guess...

'Shroom - maybe you want to archive this just in case someone connected to Vicky or Chris needs it in that libel case that was mentioned'": Can you believe this? I'm getting archived. But this one is my favotrite: 'The Internet is international. Larry Flynt was tried in the US. There are no such freedoms in many other countries. I know that magazines have lost cases to celebrities after the Larry Flynt case.'"
Next thing, there will be a court marshal in front of the UN members. Maybe as a courtesy we can invite the OPEC and finally put a stop to rising petrol prices!!! :)
Do you, superunknown, know of international laws regulating the Net? Which country's jurisdiction do they fall under? Or is it a UN concern? It's the biggest problem the world is having with the net, lack of control.
This is really childish. I just can't get over how far these women went. It's ridiculous and a little scary. Woah

I have agreed to wrongdoing and lying, that's my stand on this whole thing. I won't change my mind on this. I know what you mean about about how it feels, and about the sympathy and trying to comfort, sometimes a little too late. I guess a broken heart is something that for some people just won't heal, no matter how much you comfort them.

I MADE EVERYTHING UP, I DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE, I'M NOT FRENCH. THAT'S IT IN A NUT SHELL.

Again, superunknown, this is all about me, ok? nothing to do with you AT ALL, I'm the one who lied.
Just give it time, you'll see, wink! :)

Posted by Morgan @ 08/11/2004 10:37 AM CST

I forgot to tell you, Superunknown, that I'm leaving for a couple of weeks. I'm not going anywhere really, because its all in my head, but I'm going to pretend I'm gone to make myself feel important. I should be back here, of course since I never left here, hopefully in early Sept.
So to all of you SG GAL, KC, sunnyenergy, superunknown, and everybody else who is nice, be safe and enjoy August, try to stay cool, it's getting realy hot, its worse where I'm not-going to.

Now that I'll be gone, I'm easy target. Nothing better than attacking someone who can't defend themselves, it's perfect!so go ahead and attack me at your leasure. I insist. Fire at will!!!

Superunknown, don't get annoyed, no reason for you to give it half a thought, let alone a full one and heaven forbid, a second one... Say hi to your kids for me! :), :), :) !!!

Talk to you guys soon!

Posted by Morgan @ 08/11/2004 10:57 AM CST

Such paranoia. It's really amazing. The messages from yesterday were directed at all of the people who were posting seemingly personal information, not singling out one. Now, this isn't directed to Morgan, but to EVERYONE else.

It's been done to death. Both the innuendo and those trying to stop it.

Yes, let's do get on with OUR lives and get OUT of the personal lives of Chris, Vicky, Lily, the new baby, Karen and all the other Cornells. It's the decent and respectful thing to do.

Posted by Wondering @ 08/11/2004 12:34 PM CST

Goodmorning Morgan, hope to catch you befre you're off. We know who you are- how was central booking in NYC last XMAS? You once posted that you were afraid of being fired if you were to expose yoursef - well you have. Job well done!!!

Posted by JEN @ 08/11/2004 01:05 PM CST

Whoever, Jen is...it's time to drop the whole thing. People don't believe it and intimating that you have a way to give her cred doesn't work either. Just stop already!

Shroomie, please. Stop the madness. It's gone way too far.

Posted by Wondering @ 08/11/2004 01:20 PM CST